Portal 2

Portal 2

Modular Reform
42 Comments
Leo  [author] 13 Feb @ 4:31pm 
@乌云彩彩
Yeah that move your video requires some dexterity, to an extent that I believe it should "feel" unintended enough. Spider Dawg's video actually shows the exact intended solution (with a minor variation on the cubes' positions at the end), by the way thank you for sharing that video!
@Alric @mentallentil
Thanks for playing and sorry it didn't feel as rewarding as it should have. I know there's still a couple of unintended solutions left but trying to fix them all broke my motivation back when I released the map, so I won't edit it again
mentallentil 8 Sep, 2024 @ 5:11pm 
the track platform has an obvious lack of reuse now :steamsad:. Cool puzzle nonetheless, favourited
Alric 12 Jul, 2024 @ 10:53am 
Nice puzzle, I've liked the funnel state switching, but the ending itself doesn't feel rewarding, likely because of the couple less satisfying solutions the player may stumble upon sooner than the intended one
Spider_Dawg 2 Dec, 2023 @ 10:32am 
@ 乌云彩彩
The move in your solution is possible (although as your video shows not easy to repeat) but it is not as satisfying as the intended solution which uses the platform. Here's a video of a nearly intended solution if you need a hint, but I'd recommend sticking with it until you get it yourself.

My solution
乌云彩彩 1 Dec, 2023 @ 11:36pm 
At first, I approached this with Modular Form thinking and discovered many interesting logics, but still got stuck. Frustrated, I started over and wandered for a long time without knowing how to solve the puzzle. Later, I found that there were actually two portals in the exit area that could be seen (within a short period of time). So, I tried an action that I had subconsciously ruled out, and it worked! I ended up with a solution that was unexpected, and surprisingly, I didn't use any moving platforms throughout. Honestly, I'm really confused and curious about intended solutions.
This is my run:  spurious solution  [www.bilibili.com]
Leo  [author] 1 Dec, 2023 @ 6:33am 
@jandlml
No thank YOU for your patience, as this one could be considered somewhat broken (despite all my efforts) xD
jandlml 1 Nov, 2023 @ 5:16pm 
Excellent! Great map!! I cant believe i didnt figure it out much sooner. All my fault i really needed to look at the map much more closely. thanks for the patience. :steamhappy:
Leo  [author] 31 Oct, 2023 @ 3:40pm 
Damn, sorry for my unresponsiveness those last few days, and thank you Spider Dawg for helping jandlml in my place. It seems you two have figured out the intended solution in the end, fantastic work!! Spider, your last video indeed shows the exact planned route, up to the way you set up the final respawn (there's a couple different possible positions for the cubes. And jandlml, your explanation was pretty clear actually, and because you found the intended way this time I understood it very well :)
That one step involving pushing the cube on the track platform to then bring the cube to you by activating the platform was the core move I wanted to implement with this remake. It's a shame there are still a few alternate ways possible, although they don't feel as clean I guess. Still, big congrats to the both of you, because this one definitely is tough! You conquered another one ;)
Spider_Dawg 30 Oct, 2023 @ 3:31pm 
Congrats! What a relief, eh?!?
jandlml 30 Oct, 2023 @ 2:26pm 
i hope you can understand my explanation. i always have to much to write so i try to write the important points. not sure it really makes sense
jandlml 30 Oct, 2023 @ 2:24pm 
i cant believe this i think i got it this time. im kicking myself. so simple for some reason i thought the cube would be way to low to grab. so i just did a variety of the same thing but placed the cube facing the funnel button at the far end across from the portal surface near the door. i had left the funnel alone from the pictures position that way i could use it to go back to the exit side once i angled the cube at the button. so once i get to the back i push the cube to the panel then i use the blue funnel on the portal near the exit which turns orange and brings the other cube to the back which i can easily grab from the funnel. than i just use the funnel to bring me and the cube back to the middle section where i point it at the panel button. make a portal connecting to the back grab the cube and the rest is easy.
jandlml 30 Oct, 2023 @ 2:06pm 
well i have to ask then. is the proper way to get the cube to the back is to push it with the funnel to the moveable panel?
jandlml 30 Oct, 2023 @ 2:03pm 
oh man i am so lost . i have tried so many ways to finish this map and nothing works. to many unintended solutions. so far 2 for me. man i wish i could find the right way.
Spider_Dawg 29 Oct, 2023 @ 6:51pm 
Sorry, but that's not intended, see notes above. That's what I did previously: https://youtu.be/res3lNCaZes
jandlml 29 Oct, 2023 @ 4:28pm 
OH WOW! I hope i did it right this time.something i hadnt been thinking about i didnt go far enough into the move i was going over and over trying to make work. please let this be right. i used the funnel to push the cube onto the platform. then just ran over and got it. just put it out of the way for a minute. then went back and made the blue funnel. took it to the back. then i dropped the cube into the funnel then ran to the side portal and used that to drop the cube to block the laser and the funnel turned orange. the rest was easy.
jandlml 28 Oct, 2023 @ 8:43pm 
ok so your hint wasnt anything i havent been trying to figure a way to do. but everything i think up i end with loosing my connection to the laser portal. i will keep trying.
Spider_Dawg 28 Oct, 2023 @ 1:29pm 
By Joe, I do believe I've got it! @jandlml, if you'd like a little hint without watching the video, it would be don't give up the funnel too soon . For the finale, we have my final video . Thanks much @Leo for stopping me chasing wild geese, and making me try other ideas I'd already sort of had. Cheers!
Spider_Dawg 27 Oct, 2023 @ 3:37pm 
I haven't looked at this last spoiler hint, yet, but what you said about jandlml's screenshot has me a bit confused. When you said my video was correct until 2:52, I took that to mean don't cross the goo pit and have basically given up due to being completely unable to see an advantageous way forward without doing so since the screenshot basically shows where I'd be a few seconds later. Thanks for your help, and creating and all, I'll retry from there.
Leo  [author] 27 Oct, 2023 @ 1:06pm 
@jandlml
Wow, that sounds very convoluted, but equally as ingenious! I can confirm the state shown in your screenshot is part of the intended solution, and is a fairly advanced state too. If you want further advice on the intended way going from there, here's my spoiler hint (will work for you as well Spider Dawg, so maybe don't look at it... yet :P
Like I was saying, in that state you have one cube in the area in between the fizzlers. You will have to get it out of there at some point, however the thing is, in order to get out of this area yourself while preserving portals (which is necessary), you HAVE to leave a cube there. The conclusion is, you will need to find a way to get the cube out of this area remotely, without physically being there. You may want to think about how to achieve that. Hopefully that helps and doesn't make things worse lol
@Spider_Dawg
I'm confident you'll get it soon, with or without the spoiler hint above!
jandlml 25 Oct, 2023 @ 4:47pm 
ok well, i have solved the map. but, im sure i did it an unintended way . i have tried to think of every way possible ( i used all the elements in the map numerous different ways and still this was the only way i could find to be able to get both cubes to the back. i manipulated one cube through the fizzle wall near the moveable panel in order to move the panel in such a way as to get the cube to the back and still keep the connection to the laser.
Spider_Dawg 25 Oct, 2023 @ 6:31am 
@Leo thanks for the reply. I had a feeling that was where I went wrong, I'll keep trying from there. No thanks on the further hint... yet.
jandlml 23 Oct, 2023 @ 2:45pm 
well i got one cube to the exit but i had to sacrifice the other one. now i have no where to go
jandlml 23 Oct, 2023 @ 2:28pm 
i watched spider dawgs video to 2:52. thats what i have. so i will keep trying.
Leo  [author] 23 Oct, 2023 @ 12:16pm 
@NLuziaf
In that case, even 1/10 is generous!
@jandlml
Sorry for the delayed answer! If you have the laser while being in the exit area, I would guess you already used the track platform, correct? In that case, you probably have a cube in the area in between the two fizzlers? You will then need to think of a way to get this cube out of there, to ultimately bring it to the exit, but you have to do so without breaking your portal connection between the exit area and the rest of the room. I'm not sure what your exact setup is so I don't really know what else to say, I'm afraid
@Spider_Dawg
Oh, that video is quite close! It shows the exact intended route up until 2:52. Like I said to jandlml, you will want to find a way to get the cube out of the area in between the two fizzlers. I could give a bit more of a hint, let me know if you'd like that. You're getting there!
Spider_Dawg 22 Oct, 2023 @ 10:16am 
@Leo, been a busy last few weeks and I still haven't solved this as intended. You are correct that that move is a bit tricky to pull off, I did it perfectly the very first attempt but as you can probably see from the edit in the video it took a few tries the second time around. Anyway, I'm including another video of what I've been trying to do lately. Perhaps you could be kind enough to tell me if any of this is right at all, and if so where I went wrong. Thanks! My "progress" so far
jandlml 21 Oct, 2023 @ 7:21pm 
ok anyone have a hint so lost. i have both cubes and the laser coming from the exit side.
jandlml 18 Oct, 2023 @ 5:16pm 
well im stuck . i have both cubes and i have the laser coming from the exit side. i have a screenshot but i cant figure out how to copy and paste it here. it wont let me.
jandlml 13 Oct, 2023 @ 8:12pm 
oh man i played the original chamber but i cant remember any of it. i am stuck even getting started.
NLuziaf 7 Oct, 2023 @ 5:49pm 
1/10 difficulty, just CFG. /s
Leo  [author] 29 Sep, 2023 @ 12:57pm 
@Spider_Dawg
Sorry for the late response! Thanks for the video, it's truly incredible how many different and unexpected moves are made possible with this setup. The move at 3:55 looks a bit hard to pull off though, especially because the funnel is quite fast. Indeed your screenshot is closer to the intended solution, although one of the cube still being in the cage where it spawns might turn out to be a problem later on
Spider_Dawg 23 Sep, 2023 @ 11:23pm 
Very nice, have me stumped so far. In the meantime here's my unintended video

https://youtu.be/res3lNCaZes
Leo  [author] 23 Sep, 2023 @ 1:20pm 
@skosh
Sorry about the sudden update... however please note the surface on the sidewall IS still visible from the exit area. I just had to change the way it's set up because of *yet* another exploit brought to my attention.
How you respawned both cubes is the intended final move, so that's nice! The way you got to that point isn't quite right though, I suppose you had to carefully hold the cube through grating and awkwardy move through the funnel to achieve that? Very clever, I must say! I might leave that in just because it's kind of sneaky anyway. Congrats for beating me at my own game... twice! xD
skosh 23 Sep, 2023 @ 10:54am 
Well I managed to solve it the other day after you put that depression in the floor. Looked like it was all intended, but this morning I thought I would make a video of the entire run and I discovered that the portal surface on the sidewall is no longer visible from the area by the exit door. I was stumped again because my solution depended on that portal. So I solved it again but again clearly unintended. My previous video shows how to get to the starting point of this video. Is the final sequence at least intended? Hey! Whats that ... a new stairway across from the exit. I just noticed it at the end of my video. ...

https://youtu.be/btSCR84RYSA
M-A-R-K-74 23 Sep, 2023 @ 2:15am 
@Leo: Maybe a smaller surface
Leo  [author] 22 Sep, 2023 @ 2:01pm 
@M-A-R-K-74
Ah, I see. I think I don't need to fix it then :P
@klaus.sfc01
Lol whoops... But it may be even better to play both back to back, you'll notice the subtle differences more clearly ;)
klaus.sfc01 20 Sep, 2023 @ 11:34pm 
Cool forgot i had this map in my queue and now i have to solve it twice
M-A-R-K-74 20 Sep, 2023 @ 10:48pm 
@Leo: I dont read the discription with off-centered portals.
Leo  [author] 20 Sep, 2023 @ 1:56pm 
@skosh
Oh wow, your video highlights a big issue I completely overlooked! Thanks a lot for bringing it to my attention, I updated the map to fix it, which actually allowed me to improve slightly the clarity and leniency of the intended solution. I owe you one! Unfortunately, you started to get a bit off track from 1:30 in your video. I'm aware there are a lot of possible paths in the map, which makes it difficult (and also causes many unexpected exploits). I'm confident you'll get there though. If you need a hint in the process, just let me know :)
@M-A-R-K-74
Was your solution similar to what skosh did in their video, perhaps?
skosh 20 Sep, 2023 @ 12:05pm 
You have me stumped. Not even sure how to begin for the intended solution. I did manage to solve it, but I bypassed many of the elements, so clearly unintended (probably like MARK74). Am I am even going in the right direction up to time 3:25 in my video? ... https://youtu.be/PoMUpdi_HZQ
M-A-R-K-74 20 Sep, 2023 @ 11:02am 
I dont need the rail platform :steammocking: