Works fine for me. Remember that you need right click gothic 2 and select properties -> betas -> workshop beta.

nie działa

unfortunately it is broken. at first everything seems ok, but later on you may notice very weird stats on your character. like getting +5 to one-handed weapon, but bonus increases by 20%, and after if you read some stone tablet or increase stats by any other way, it reverts back to original value. also cost increases at some point goes up even though you spend little or nothing. it even shows so in character sheet, like you trained 20 DEX and increases it to 40 by other means, but cost is somehow increase to 2 or even 3 LP per point

Is it possible to use this mod without ninja?

I ran into an issue with this. Whenever I started the mod, I wouldn't be able to reach the main menu, instead receiving an error: "Unknown Identifier: REAL_TALENT_1H". After a lot of experimentation, I found out that I can work around this issue by subscribing to Script Patch and using that to start the game instead of using the default play button in the workshop launcher. I hope this helps anyone having a similar issue.

ok, in my game, when im using trainers in 1h and then equip something with bonuses 1h im losnig bonus points in 1h. Also(!!!) trainers dont distinguish real points from effective points. its only affect weapon skills

@Eldaxin 1 is just an original Gothic bug ;)

2. NPC become super garbage later in other than main world. In khorinis everything seems fine, but on Irdorath, mining valey, jarkendar most npc has 0% total skill proficiency. In my playthrough two orcs on ship killed half of my crew, cause they were doing little to no damage to orcs. Also raven was hitting me for 5 health with 75 armor.

It would be nice if someone re-make this mod for union, cause i guess author abandoned it.

Worked fine for me on new game to some point, but there're two bugs I found that you need pay attention to.
1. You need to really watch out for transformation magic. In default when you cancel it, game equips you best weapon you can carry(if you had none) and if this weapon has weapon proficiency bonuses, it will affect your skill. For example when after transform it equips el bastardo which gives +10 to 1handed weapons, it will set your total 1h talent to one you had with this sword counted already. So when you change weapon you can lose 10% skill. It works another way too, you can cheat with clubs from Fisk which reduce skill by 10%, to get 10% extra after transform.

Any way to install it without Ninja?

Nice

Thanks to this patch I gave the VarusBiker 1.4b mod another try after so many years. Was one of the mods, which kept the learning-system vanilla, which is unbearable to me anymore.

If it doesn't work with some mod, you can just edit mod .ini, for example g2_classic.ini and just put there:

[SETTINGS]
IncompatibleNinjaPatches=BonusIndependentTraining

No problem, and no need to thank me that much, I merely uploaded it to steam workshop. the creator is elsky42 and the github repo link is in the description of this mod page

It does work if you have spent at least one lp on a skill/stat, then it shows base value of stat properly. If you have left it at deafult from the beggining and only raised it up using tablets, elixirs etc. then it shows that the base value is the value with bonuses applied.
For example i didnt put any point into dex and it showed: 34/34
Corrected this using "bit setcharactervalue" command and everything works as intended.
Thanks for this great mod and effort you put into this :))

Hmm not quite sure. Probably it doesnt calculate retroactively

Does this work with a save that already has some bonuses from tablets etc. added?

@D36
just a regular application crash I've tested it and if I disable the plugin before entering a new location, then save, quit the game and enable the plugin again, everything works fine.

@even.aq
Any error messages?

mod causes a crash when entering Jarkhendar in my case. tested it disabling other plugins and I'm 100% sure it's the cause.

finally on steam

@D36
Thank you, I'll try to figure it out with SH.

@kwasowsky
This issue is known and will be fixed when possible. But overall, I suggest to use the built-in system that can be enabled in Script Patch settings ('insert sh' in console).

Hello, I've got a bug with one-handed training. Although I've got 25%/35% - trainer got 2LP/10LP instead of 1LP/5LP. I'm using Script Patch. Strengh and Dexterity works fine for now. Lares shows 1LP/5LP.
https://i.imgur.com/rSGVth5.jpeg

The crash in the russian version of Script Patch is now fixed. This mod will be working fine, except for a few minor details that I will investigate later.

Yes for english works pretty well

@harooooo
UPD
The Russian version of the update does not start
The English version works

The question is how stable is it?
Have you gone through the game? Does the mod work without bugs?

But idk, if it works for me then there surely is a way for you to make it work.

@e_creator Hmm if script patch author says it will not work then probably he is correct.

But then it is strange how it doesn't crash for me. I use it through the workshop, the same one you linked.

Also btw i am not author of this mod, i just uploaded it since i saw it was only available through github

@harooooo
Everything is installed
Ninja put in the top of the list
On the Script Patch page, one of the authors of the mod - D36 wrote that he would fix the error, but the mod would not work anyway, its own system was implemented there
Did you install the Script Patch through the workshop or manually?

Apologies for google translate, not a native speaker

@e_creator thats strange because i myself use Script Patch and it doesn't crash

Are u sure u have Ninja installed, with bigger priority on ninja than anything else (ninja on top of list)

It is compatible with almost every mod

Is there compatibility with mods?

Doesn't work with Script Patch:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2792250061

At startup, after the opening clips crashes and an error appears:
U:PAR:\NINJA\BONUSINDEPENDENTTRAINING\CONTENT\STORY\PATCH_BIT_UTILS.D: Unknown identifier : REAL_TALENT_1H (line 4)

it would be nice if it worked without ninja, only with union

Not sure about compatibility with big mods like Odyssee. best to do a quick test, or check around on github page

Is there compatibility with mods? Odyssee?

Thank you ! I was looking for a mod that would add this kind of feature !