the male camels should get a happiness buff when you milk them

That makes sense. All things being equal, you'd rather they drink the beer that gives them +15 happiness than the milk that gives them +6 happiness, and be full.

It's weighted a bit less, yes.

Thank you for the information; sure enough it showed up after a bit.

I've also noticed that people do not seem to autonomously drink milk, despite it perfectly being safe and giving them a relaxation/happiness for doing so. Is it simply weighted less than other items or something?

There's a slight delay between research being completed and the recipes showing up on the fermentation barrel. More than a few seconds, but less than a minute, generally. So if you looked at the fermentation barrel right after completing the research it wouldn't show up yet.

The reason for this is that I didn't override the default research item, so shubat isn't actually unlocked by the research. Instead I put the research as a requirement for the recipe itself, and that leads to the slight delay.

Anyway, long story short, if you have researched Winemaking AND you have actually "discovered" milk (which happens the first time you pick some up), then the recipe should be showing up. Which fermentation barrel type you use is not relevant.

Note, you do have to have actually received some milk as well. The recipe has both the research and the discovery of milk as a requirement to be unhidden. I just tested it out and it's working exactly so in my game.

Okay at first I had trouble unlocking Shubat because I forgot teaballs were a fruit and winemaking requires a fruit. However, now I do have winemaking unlocked but I still cannot make Shubat in a fermentation barrel. I am using the scrap metal barrels if that makes a difference.

@Omega13, yep. After I first got drones I got a ridiculous, steady supply of manure from wild animals around my base. It's why I globally shut off wild manure production.

I figure it probably also has at least some impact on improving performance, though perhaps a small impact.

Yeah the new delivery drones kinda make wild manure sorta OP. just zoom out your camera every couple of days and allow all of the manure, let the drones sweep it up, and you get tons of free fertilizer (or materials for fuel if you swing that way). Removing it is probably a good balance. Also removes all of the weird stinky green piles cluttering the wilderness.

The milk just drops on the ground, just like the fertilizer. I'm far too lazy to take the time to impliment the actual milking process. It'd be cool, but I don't have that level of ambition.

I also changed it so they do not drop it if not tamed, and manure got sucked into that as well. Which means with this mod enabled, wild camels do not provide free manure, if you care at all about that.

(For my own game, I actually disabled manure being produced by wild creatures across the board. That's my own preference, because I don't think non-domestic mass-manure production makes sense at all.)

Loaded up an old Desertum save with this mod enabled and I can confirm that their camels can now have petting disabled, which they definitely could not before. Thanks!

Also while I am here - is the camel milk simply dropped on the ground like manure is or does it require a worker to come and milk the camels? And can the milk option be disabled if I only want the other features? Thanks again.

@Omega13, I'm pretty sure the answer is yes. That's the main function of the flag I changed for them regarding petting, I believe.

I don't have an active Desertum save right now to verify. Try it out and let me know if I'm wrong.

So something to note - survivors can ALREADY pet camels. It's kind of a huge problem with the camels, actually, because there is seemingly a bug where you can't turn OFF petting in the vanilla game (as you can for many other animals), which leads to survivors bonding with livestock and getting sad when you turn them into camel steaks. Does this mod allow you to toggle the petting off?

I couldn't take the tamed camel to the shelter. The option just doesn't appear. Did it happen to you?

I didn't notice it but I had your stack mods and Better Storage by Haysun enabled at the same time. I disabled Better Storage and it fixed the issue. I'm also running Project-X so it might have been something weird between the three of them.

Thanks Jaggid. You're super helpful :)

You can see a thread where someone else was experiencing similar issues, some help given them on which mods to disable to resolve it in the Stranded general discussion . With the help given, they did resolve their issue.

@NukeAJS, they do still eat hay.

What you are experiencing is an issue caused by outdated mods. Either ones that contain Hay overrides, such as several of the Bigger/Better Stacks mods, or ones that override (or add new) animal feeders, such as the Dog bowl mod or the very old version of Better Stacks.

If you can figure out which old mod is causing the issue and disable it, they will start eating hay again.

Do camels not eat grass/hay anymore? I can't get my camels to eat either planted grass or hay put into a feeder.

hahaha love your mods man, but yeah it doesn't matter how old we are we're all 14 year olds when an inappropriate joke is around.

Yah..yah...
My mind went to the same place. I still left it that way. LOL

these male camels have it really good in alien dawn

male camels produce "milk" ;) haha