love the character sm but her NSpecial nerf (the one where a single enemy attack disables it) is so damn rough,,,

The 30-ish frame delay between inputting special to recall the whirlspool and actually recalling it is absurd. Part of the fun of recalling it is being able to ping-pong your opponent, especially since the thing doesn't stay in one place and you have to adapt to its position if you ever plan on following up on it. What it was before was perfect, or at least cut the delay by well over half.

MOMMY? sorry. MOMMY? sorry. MOMMY?

>Looking for new workshop character
>Ask the author if their character is a smash port or guilty gear ripoff
>He doesn't understand
>I pull out an illustrated diagram explaining what is a smash port and what is a guilty gear ripoff
>He laughs and says "it's a good character sir"
>Download character
>Its a guilty gear ripoff

10/10 still would have rather had this than Reina

nvm it only works when the enemy is airborn. COULDA SAID THAT

Down Special absolutely does not pull in the enemy, even if they have Riptide. It just. Doesn't. Work. The animation plays, and they don't go anywhere.

I will once I have more free time to do so.
Unfortunately, me being a perfectionist and still NOT HAVING FINISHED KRIS DE, it may take a while.

can you please finish your youtube tutorial on how to make workshop fighters

What does riptide do?

Love the character, although ran into a new bug whenever the riptide gets parried it causes a fatal error, other than that she is one of my mains when playing with friends

why is she cute? Am I a furry??

Riptide works strangely. Maybe it was described somewhere, but I didn't find it. The wave from ftilt does not apply stacks - only a kick. uair stopped applying riptide stacks altogether (as well as dtilt+dtilt). uspecial and nspecial aplying stacks as they should. Maybe there were some other attacks, I don't remember, but now only ftilt, uspecial and nspecial work, But all riptide does now is deal 1 damage when I press dspecial regardless of the number of stacks and after that it is removed. Dspecial on full stacks does not pull opponet as before - it just deals 1 damage and that's it

riptide just broke for me, only f tilt applies it and nothing else is normal. sorry if this has been mentioned before

@vido games. That is true; most characters with a gimmick like that either have it be easily dispatched by the opponent or the opponent can use the gimmick to their advantage as well to punish the user. Though Equinox did say they are looking to roll back a lot of the changes soon. I joined the extended workshop for such a purpose as well.

hey equi! sorry to pile on about the patch, I know nerfs were probably necessary overall, but the feeling of being able to be knocked into the whirlspool AND it being disabled with one hit is pretty nasty. lots of characters get strong gimmicks that only have one of those weaknesses. I'll go to bat for it on the discord if needed :(

This shouldve won the Rival 2 Context

Honestly one of the most fun characters from the few I've downloaded since getting into the game, the design and palettes and move pool are all honestly amazing and impressively well done, and she's super fun to play from the few games that I have played trying to learn her. Honestly she would work extremely well as a base game character, she's incredibly fun to learn. Extremely well done on ever aspect of the character!

Alright. I typically don't like joining discords for side aspects of a games, but i'll consider it. The riptide stacks don't seem to be completely fixed since i can only get the lvl 3 with throwing n-special specifically. All the other water moves don't apply.

@neurosis51 Extended Workshop discord.
I do agree about rolling back some changes, I think the big one is opponents being able to disable the recall hitbox and I will be rolling that back next week. I'm trying to keep an ear to the ground right now, I feel like she feels fine still and just needs some smoothing to refine the rougher edges and make the patch sing.

But, for now, I'm unable to do anything because of a patch lockout outside of bug fixes.

@EquinoxDoodles the ExW?

Hey gang.
A lot of the balance decisions were made to make her viable for the coming Riptide. I made compromises as much as I can, but this was what I had to do to keep her in. I finally fixed the "bug" but still unsure about the X for online.

Still busy with school work, I apologize for this, but my hands are ultimately tied.
Please let your feedback be known in ExW, but I will be looking to try and fix up some of the blemishes that she got from the most recent patch.

Much love.

@riverdog deyna It sounds like you just picked this character up recently. The most recent update messed up a lot of functionality and did a bunch of nerfs, but I assure you Wren worked properly before.

I'm sure EquinoxDoodles is taking a look at it again and won't leave Wren broken and unfun (Hopefully)...

Even when I do apply riptide, and then use the pull thing, it shows the animation, BUT THEN DOESN'T PULL THEM

I'm SO confused. Things that feel like they should apply riptide DON'T apply riptide, and things that DO apply riptide sometimes design they just don't wanna. How do I even apply riptide at all???? A lot of water attacks AREN'T APPLYING RIPTIDE

That "X" on the character select screen is also a problem I have. Not sure if that's tied to the other broken stuff like the riptide stack effects.

I'm going to be real, she feels terrible to play on every account now and her riptide stacks feature is currently broken, as in it just doesn't function at all. I'd honestly suggest rolling back every change ASIDE from the bugfixes, tide call punish, knockback, and dmg nerfs. Let Wren keep her utility and combo conversion ability that actually makes her fun to play.

Not sure what HSP for f-special is, but the only thing i think is reasonable is it not destroying projectiles (even though it's an active hit box). The cancel only on hit feature should be reverted big time since a lot of her freedom of mobility tricks come from that, as of right now it doesn't even work on hit either since I can't go into u-special from f-special hit.

Not sure if this could just be an issue with my game, but on the select screen there's a white X that appears over part of my profile name.

did they announce an actual winner of the rivals 2 workshop contest?

its ok wren.... you won in my heart

Thank you for the support and love. I intend to do another patch at some point to tone Wren down just a touch, make Whirlspool a little easier to play around with more recognizable counterplay. A lot of work to do, but just need to be patient.

Cheers

Regardless of the results of the contest, this will still be my favourite entry to Rivals 2, and hopefully we can see more of her moving forward. Thank you for this rad as hell character!

this character is so cool. love the style and the animations and everything. super fun to play. but like, she feels terribly overpowered. like, whats the counterplay to whirlpool. why is it maypul lily but better in every way

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Sad she didn't win. Still best character, best girl, very cool.

THIS CHARACTER IS THE SHIT i love them so much their my little booger little booger baby

I hate playing against this character

love this character and the combos are insane

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wth is goin on below me...
yall strange!

Dude below me below him had the same idea as me

Dude below me wants to screw a bundle of pixels

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Okay, I tested it a bit more and i'm guessing this is an oversight rather than an intended feature since it doesn't make sense to have it work this way: When the opponent has 3 stocks of riptide on them, throwing the whirlspool at them with N-special doesn't do anything, be it while they are idle or in hitstun (the recall attack hits them like normal though). With 0-2 stock of riptide it functions the way it's supposed to as well (N-special hitting the opponent when thrown).

If this is intended (I hope that's not the case), what's the reasoning? It just seems like a bug to me, so hopefully this gets looked at as well for fixing, thanks in advanced for the consideration.

The only bugs still present is whirlspool leaving an invisible persistent hitbox at the position it was parried and one other bug or inconsistency I haven't mentioned till now; throwing whirlspool at the opponent with Nspecial while they are still in hitstun seems to not make contact, but only some of the time. I've tested it in training mode and can't figure out why it only works half the time. It's like whirspool doesn't have a hit box and phases through when thrown.

I've played Wren ever since she first released and I think all the recent changes feel really good. She's still Wren, gets to do Wren things, but feels toned down just a tad. U-Special not going as far I hadn't really noticed as I don't have issues recovering with her, she has so many ways to do so. I think the changes to Riptide are good, I like that stacks 1 and 2 are now just for the combo game, being able to just interrupt the opponent anytime you wanted was a bit dumb, but really funny haha. Maybe let them do 1% damage or something, as not doing anything at all feels a bit odd? But yea! She's still my favorite Rivals 2 Contest submission, love her a lot!
Oh yea, thank you for the extra frames for inputting Tide Call! I don't have issues with misinputs now so yay!

@Trash Mammal. Yes I've had the same issue and mentioned it in my earlier comments here. Not sure what causes it, but it's really annoying when I can't use the genesis skin.

I keep getting an annoying bug where like half her skins just seemingly vanish for no reason, it seems to happen whenever i add more mods and fixes when i reinstall her, does anyone else have this issue?

All her stats come from Rivals base cast, so I don't know what to tell you other than just it's combination of multiple factors. I've contemplated giving players an option to deal with Tide Call given how many uses it has, so I'll take that into effect. But everything else is fairly standard as far as base cast numbers go.

:,)

One of the longest specials that i've seen with little to no spot for punishment, an universal recovery that, i swear to god if you're able to interrupt you must be some sort of god; The side special with it's long range also does not need commitment, it's just deadly for deadly's sake and im not even going to get started how this character has like.. S+ Stats on everything, if we were to make an average with all the base characters in rival. Hits too hard, moves too fast, recovers as if it is sandberg and requires little to no commitment. It's a very good character, but too good. Still, you did a very good job with this!

Just noticed you are the same author of the OSFE mods too. Man that was forever ago, could never build a synergistic deck that wasn't element based in that game. Glad to see your quality improve a lot.