Ah, that makes sense. I've been using Alite's gene mods, which change the pain genes to directly adjust pain instead of adding the wimp trait, with the roleplay being that Dreadfleet has come to the planet to acquire its weird genes and technology.

Extra Pain forces Wimp rather than adjusting the amount of pain you get, so it is incompatible with the Tough trait. That's the big problem with it. Liches in particular all have Tough from their pawn backstory.

Painstoppers would make them stronger but I can't imagine it really coming up in vanilla unless they run out of Go-Juice which doesn't happen too often for me. A funny thing you can do with vanilla hediffs is to give painstopper/ghoul pawns fiborous and sensory mechanites because they get the stat boosts but not the pain lol.
I kind of like the idea that Liches/Gaunts are doing it for the thrill and wouldn't use painstoppers while hunting terrestrials, though. Gorerunners were going to have them before I decided not to give them bionics.

Metabolism isn't really a problem anyway. Gaunts/gorerunners aren't supposed to be optimal.

Idea:
Painstopper + extra pain gene. The extra pain gene gives metabolism that could be spent making these guys even more terrifying, but painstopper would prevent it from affecting combat cos anything multiplied by 0 is 0.

Dreadfleet beat my ass again.
I have nothing else to report.

Dreadfleet will no longer generate settlements on the map. This does not impact existing saves.

the only raid where i actually have to think about how to beat them.

Got my ass beat and never experienced a raid from these guys that didn't result in at least one of my pawns dying.
10/10

Great, thank you :)

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Updated, Ideo and Anomaly dependencies removed (turns out it does use an item for ideology - slave collars).
Scorchers will only spawn if you have anomaly though, so you might consider it a soft dependency if you want to get flamethrowered.

It uses an item from anomaly. I expected the same for ideo but it turns out it's mostly clean other than the faction generation. I'm not used to the requirements formatting so I'll need to do some more testing to get it to only call on the parts of them that it uses if they're loaded.

Looks good, but why does it require Anomaly and Ideology?