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Awesome mod, but I have a question.
Why does it appear as Starbase not as megastructure? Is there like a reason for it?

Not all standard trading policies work.
Innovative trade, which provides science, as well as the policies of a Planned Economy are also useless.

Looks as if paradox are going to turn trade into a proper resource and may rename it, possibly into logistics.

There's another mod called 'Cross Border Trade' I'm trying to find a mod that is compatible and lag reducer.

(I copy and pasted my comment from another Optimized Trade) Is there a way to make a building that consumes trade? Maybe an starbase and/or planet also spending resources on it (Named: Tourist Center [level one] let's say spend 500 Energy Credits 200 minerals 3 jobs: | tourists [consuming] -10 trade, in exchange for Empire wide Amenities: +1 depending on your Trade Policy . Trade won't become too laggy in late game.

Yeah, this bugs the galactic market resolution and thus the galactic community is bricked into voting it every few years instead of actually voting on anything else.

Can we please get an update for this?

Please update

please update, I really want to use this mod <3 <3 <3

Love this mod

But I'm pretty sure it breaks the galactic market.
It's happened in previous games also - I am now seeing the Galactic Market go through a vote for the umpteenth time, and no matter what I do, it just 'disappears' after a while having a nomination, and returns to the resolution pool and stalls all other galactic community progress.

can u pls update this :/

Does this mod still work for 3.13?

As a megacorp primary, this mod is both adored and regretted. The trade lag in late game for a very diplomatic/trade focused empire was pretty rough, getting rid of it is amazing.
On the other hand, I did like having to plan out starbases for collection and protecting paths (that they also tended to be invasion blockades was a plus too.)
That said, that the trade value of the planets is constantly showing on the map as 'uncollected' sometimes gives me anxiety. ;p

Are you interested in ppl submitting the code for modded trade policies to be supporting in the mod by default rather than everyone having to do patch mods for it?

bruhhhh update this shit

It seems like this is messing with commercial pacts a little; nothing is ever shown in the diplomacy dialogue about how much a pact gives, so once you have multiple pacts going it is difficult to tell which pact is contributing how much to your energy income. The mod does seem to help with late game performance, though.

Sheamus McFucкyourself, mod probably doesnt affect galactic market hub event. every planet has its own trade value after all

Does this mod affect galaxy market hub event?
Strength of nomination bid is determined by amount of trade value collected and game thinks none of it is collected, so, I think, all bids are equal and Hub is chosen randomly basically.
Or I am just been really unlucky since I installed this mod :)

Any compatibility issues crop up with 3.13?

Sounds like a good work around, but you need pirate and maybe some event that emulate the cost of remote worlds for trade empire.

Granted... In almost any other strategy game the more isolated and remote the World, the more profitable its resources.

This mod is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you for a solution that doesn't break my immersion or game balance!

@DragonZephyr try Realistic Pirates mod

Pirates help level commanders in peaceful empires which can be useful to gain economic bonuses, level the fleets and give a context reason for corvettes to exist beyond picket duty. Their salvage is useful too either for the vulture perks and then taking them apart at the salvaging neutral faction after their revive or by intentionally letting them wreck things to spread them to neighbours and then cashing in on the stash which grows from their strength (a more advanced version of this is using gateways to build up piracy through another empire).
Even just suppresing piracy gives exp! I understand that you don't find them useful but i think solving these issues is why something like this is not in the game yet. Still all works with the players using the normal way as i doubt AI goes for any of that stuff but i still think it warrants commenting. Thank you for your work olympia.

@Olympia

I see your comment from July 13 regarding commercial pacts, but I am not getting any EC from my commercial pact. I have my trade nexus disabled (so base game trade behavior) but AI have theirs still. I just double checked it by canceling my pact, waiting a month, and my EC income did not change. Have you tested this with no player nexus and with AI trade nexus?

I double checked by disabling the mod and waiting 2 months, and i was getting 3.5 trade and unity from it. Unless you drastically reduced the impact of commercial pact (I am early in the game after all), I suspect something is not working correctly

Does trade still impact performance if you're a gestalt that destroyed every other empire?

Wow! And it even is correctly shown as Trade Value.
I thought it was a bug first till I tested.
Thank you! Stellaris needed this for a long time.

An AI is abusing this mod by constantly losing and regaining its system:
https://imgur.com/a/uW7OsKn

@ Olympia, got it. The relic added a deposit of 9 trade value and best I can tell it got picked up by the mod.

One other thing I noticed, there's a starbase building called the hyperlane register who' previous purpose was to add +1 collection range to the starbase. Do you think you could change what it does given that you did something similar to trade hubs?

I've completed that event without issue on multiple saves using this mod. Probably something else.

@Parus, Teutonic Knight. I reviewed the code for that event when I was building the mod, but didn't see any issues. From what I'm seeing now, its triggers are: 1) a trade hub at a star base and 2) system trade value greater than 50 in that same system. Both of these triggers should still work with this mod. Can you tell me where the event is breaking down for you?

This mod has one issue. If you have a Trade League federation, you won't be able to participate in the "Logistical Remodelling" Federation event because you technically won't have a starbase with at least 50 trade value flowing through it.

@BlackLight and @Aphyxia Thanks for the reports. Fixed it so that whenever you or the AI acquire a system with an extra trade nexus in it, it automatically dismantles, which should take care of what you're describing.

@d.kall It's likely that the event is placing trade deposits that are custom and/or event specific. This mod only covers the randomized ones that get generated at galaxy setup (generally anything worth a trade value of 5 or less). Those custom trade value deposits will still get counted in your nation total trade value though, and since there is no path finding to take care of, it shouldn't impact your performance.

@Fede98k Glad to hear it!

@Menegucci: <3

@Skulliton Yeah, I keep trying to figure out a way to get it to show up in the diplomacy menu when you're making the deal, but I haven't had any success yet. If anyone knows how to localize a variable, please let me know, because I've tried all sorts of ways to get it there and it just shows up blank. Once the agreement is set, though, it will show up in your Energy tooltips as Commercial Pacts.

I just noticed that, whenever an empire goes to war and conquers the home system of another empire that contains the conquered empire's trade nexus, the trade value received by the conquering empire massively increases. It's as if the trade value of the conquered empire is being added to the conquering empire. This causes massive spikes in the trade value gained by the conquering empire. The concept of this mod is nice, but I think you weren't been able to consider fully the trade value when systems change control to another empire.

Hey, conquered trade stations don't seem to auto-dismantle. Is this a possible mod conflict or a bug?

Minor bug report but I just noticed that The Surveyor artifact earned from the Mining Drone homesystem still generates trade deposits

@Olympia I'll look into it, and thanks a lot for your mod, it's simple and helps noticebly with lag,

I love you so much

Just popping in to say that I've noticed that you don't know how much trade value you're getting from commercial pacts. Is there a workaround for this or do I accept the offer and monitor my EC?

@Hekadem Apologies for my poorly worded response! Cross Border Trade does work without the need for a patch. I use it without issue.

@Hatmann Weird. Thanks for letting me know. I'll keep an eye out if anyone else experiences that.

@Chicago Ted Hmm, I'll have to check that in the morning. The AI info sounds correct. They only get a yearly check, not a monthly one for performance reasons. They should be gone by the 1st of the new year.

I really like this mod, and it has improved my performance... but if I move my capital it builds a second trade nexus which does NOT disappear after a month, I have to manually delete it. I have more than once seen an AI with multi nexuses in one system, which have lasted longer than a month as well, any ideas what the issue may be? How can I delete the extra ones the AI has via a console command?

@Olympia I didn't even know how to build it to be honest. It was there from the start for the AI but the players didnt get them for 6 in game years and then they just appeared.

@Cookie looked into that myself, and without him doing a destructive edit on the UI, he cannot.


This is such an excellent mod.

Trade Value icon over the planets or system in question looks like there are not collected which I think it's in line with how this mod should work. Is there any chance to disable that for visibility?

How to patch cross border trade then? I can't find trade_conversions as stated in the forum (So it apparently doesnt need a patch) yet you said it here that it does need it

@Yes That would be cool! Not sure if I'll add anything more, though, to this mod. I may make an expanded version down the line with additional features, but this one is strictly meant to be a performance mod, first and foremost.

@Sunconure11 Yep! I use Cross Border Trade myself.

Would it need a patch for this mod?

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2780180614

it be cool if the trade station got mini hyperlane and gate with it as you unlock those techs as decorations