@Kelly from what I've noticed, these are Mycenaean units, Achaeans, Trojans, and Assuwan Native units

@chlenberlain; Which units?

Hi, great mod! but I noticed that some units look bigger than others, and because of this, the battles look comical

thanks, tried, nothing major, but agony does too much, i'll stick with your mod and other indiviual overhauls that don't have compatibility issues, as i like the vanilla systems

@Thancred Lux; It will likely have some conflicts on the campaign side of things but you could try.This would need to be loaded first

is this compatible with agony overhaul?

Hi again @Kelly thanks for your reply! I really appreciate you going into a bit of a deep dive in explaining the difference and the mechanics of the mod from the vanilla base game. It makes sense now and now that you mention it, I noticed that in the vanilla game, armored units are at the mercy of ranged units and it is ridiculous how projectiles can kill-off armored units in one shot. At least with this mod, combat feels a tad more realistic.

@ghost; With lethal blow 1000x damage in vanilla, they attempt to balance high lethal blow % of 2h axes by lower melee attack causing a phenomena where soldiers remaining in a unit largely unhurt, since a lethal blow always kill. For most weapons lethal blow acts is a normalizing coefficient to allow kills on first volley or off charge. Having some units leaning more on lethality (2h axes, javelins etc) but most ok HP/DMG is inherently flawed.

This mod has kills off charge and first volley without the inconsistency. My lethal combat mod does the inverse and completely reworks combat based on lethality, using HP for nuance and prevent the extremes of a 1HP system. So in that mod damage and HP are marginalized. And the combat based on lethality (critical blow), melee stats and armor. With armor changed to function as a chance to prevent a critical blow instead of reduce damage - but again striving for consistency.

@ghost; That’s not at all a dumb question. Yes the lethal blow damage multiplier in vanilla is 1000. In the mod it is reduced to 2. So instead of 1000x the weapon damage it is 2x. It is utilized as a critical hit. I rebalanced the HP, weapon and projectile damage values for it. For some weapons like 2h axe/club a critical blow will always be 1 hit to kill. For some like swords, spears, arrows, slings and to a lesser degree 1h axe and club, if the enemy entity is undamaged, a critical hit will depend on how armored the enemy is. This way allows for more nuanced combat. A well armored soldier may survive a critical hit from a sword but will then likely die to a non-lethal arrow. And a big factor in doing it this way was for more nuanced chariot combat both in how chariot collision splash damage and in preventing scenarios like a single arrow taking taking out an entire armored heavy chariot with 3 men in it.

Hi @Kelly This is going to sound like a dumb question but, is the damage for 100% lethality similar to the vanilla one or has this mod somehow nerfed it? I feel like I don't see the difference somehow? Thanks

Thanks :)

@Vavrinko; This one feels more like R2

Which mod feels more like Rome 2 battles? This one or the Lethal battles you've made? I don't really understand the changes list 😅

Hi Kelly I sent you a friend request where I wanted to apologize for upsetting you.
I didn’t want to make you or anyone upset by my not working on my mods+inactivity.
I feel like your delivery could have been a little better however.
I would appreciate if you don’t ghost me, but you don’t have to accept my apology I understand if so.

can we have more screen in combat or a video on youtube please

@Aca Jan; should be fixed. If not let me know. Also, if you haven't tried my other combat overhaul (Kelly Lethal Combat) I think it's superior to this. But I did leave this published in case anyone preferred it over the new one.

ok so when i launched the game with ur mod i was at the loading screen then it crashed not the cut scene trailer it plays and i used other mods and it works fine intill i add yours into it

@Aca Jan; Very weird. Can you give me more details about the crash?

i am only using this mod nothing else actaully this is the first mod i've downloaded

@Aca Jan; what other mods are you using?

game crashes when i use this mod in loading screen why is that?

PArdon me if I ask you this: how did you make "Armour degradation is uniform and no longer acts as an extra HP pool"?
I'm interested in add this into my own personal private mod. How do you keep separated armour form hp pool?
Thank you.

It’s compatible with reworked armor. The Minoan Crete mod is not.

is this compatible with your other mods? It seems to crash when I play it with your reworked armor and minoan Crete mods

Certainly Hatti and Ramses

@ellanus; which factions did you notice it with?

I think most, if not all, chariot units have some chariots without a crew.

@byzantine; Yes

is it save game compatible

@methodiusthoryus; I'll look into it, thanks

@edson-guido; Fixed!

Playing in xtreme unit size the Trojan Chariots have the soldiers missing.

i notice this mod change the way enemy behave , they not even try to charge .
They just try to run/walk through my units .Its like pathing issue .

@Ziuk; done

Hi, much better battles now, please can you fix impact on translation to other languages?

@KawaiiLife; It's difficult to say, currently the vanilla infantry engagements can incredibly long without any missiles or flanking. The idea is to retain the potential for longer battles but more dynamic and grounded than pre-Dynasties combat and without the extremes currently present.

Would this mod makes battle longer than vanila?

something about this mod causes a conflict with Native Standard Bearers ( https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3296527672 ). possibly due to altering the unit setups

ok thank you

@geottts; Ill speak with Ganossa, ill have to make a separate mod for it as he has additional units i think

it doesn't work with agony overhaul mod could you make a compatible version?

@Pedemendigo; I never really considered that tbh.. I basically worded everything as if everyone is supposed to know what it all means and the impact it would have on battles. Thank you so much for the suggestion, it was very eye opening. ill work on re-wording it!

Thanks for the mod, just a sugestion: Its really not possible to understand what your mod does based on your description. Could you be more detailed? Like "Mass adjustment".... More or less mass? "Collision dmg calculations reworked".... What changed?