ah, I'm just used to it so I went there, wasn't sure if it was a bug or not, thanks for clarifying

@ani
You are not intended to use the phase 1 road re-arm in the FA-26 version. This is due to balance, since the F/A-26 has such a high weapons capacity. Your RTB point should not set to the road re-arm. The units are prespawned and the flare system is residual. Nothing in the mission should be telling you that you can use it in the Wasp version.

Just finished the FA-26 version of the mission, the phase 1 road rearm doesn't spawn the rearm units, but the smoke and other units do appear

@TheDreamer ty bro i will try

@MuffiNy host it as a multiplayer game

Why cant i start the Mission? The play Button is missing ingame

UPDATE: I removed the modded content from this version so it shows up in the base game. You can find a new instance of the campaign supporting modded aircraft here: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3466806895

Wow, what a fantastic mission! Friend and I flew the F/A-26B varient and we had a lot of fun!

We only managed to complete Phase 1 as we were both getting to grips with the game, but we'll be giving things another try. Thanks for all the effort with this!

P.S. I hope we get radio comms sometime soon. Would love to have the added immersion.

Understood bossman! You're right on all that! I'll try your new A-10 mission today!

1). No - Balancing. F-16 is a more capable aircraft, so it is available only on realism mode. 2 lives should be more than enough.

2). No - Randomized conditions are carefully designed to not create near-unbeatable scenarios. Not only would people complain about the transit times (A-10 slow), but certain final-mission threats would make a win astronomically difficult if you only have an A-10. I would rather make a brand new mission for the A-10 specifically.

3). Maybe - I'm finishing updating an older SP campaign designed for the A-10. I'm not sure how fun KB II would be while flying the A-10 (see above), but i could always add it as an option for those who wish to subject themselves to it.

3 things I suggest!

1. F-16 without the limited lives
2. A-10 mission! Both realistic and not.
3. A-10 and F-16 in one mission

Will A-10 support be added? This is the perfect mission for it

Can we get this in Offline campaigns?

Is the f16 version included or is it a separate workshop item?

@Shamebird Hey man what's your discord so we could make this for the F16C

Cause people I feel like they would love this

I loved that mission, great job. I would love to see a version made for the AH 94, and maybe a "high tech" version for the F45 and Jamcat, possibly with payload restrictions to keep things interesting.

On a quick note, the next objectives pop up quite quickly after completing a previous, it would be nice to have just a quick 30-60 extra seconds of breathing time before moving on to the next thing.

@Retro Bigmac: Hit me up on discord.

@TheDreamer: This looks like a potential bug in the game. I removed budget restrictions until it can be confirmed and addressed.

Played the "realism" version, and the host was the only one who got an increase to their budget.

@Shamebird Hey man would you be okay if I made this mission able to use the moded aircraft Like the F16D or the SU27 I just wanted to ask and have you're permission to do so!

@Tubahorse You have to land the bomb inside the the opening of a hill bunker to destroy it. If you have destroyed it, you must seek and destroy the launcher.

Unable to complete the drone launcher/bunker objective. Launcher taken out easily w/ 1x GBU-12. 4x direct hits w/ GBU-12s, the bunker was flaming, but the objective would not update.

Kind of a bummer, but I see where you are coming from. As far as we know with Baha's dev cycle and from what I have heard in passing, AI helis are not practical with how the AI are currently coded, so we'll have to find something else.

@JoeSpeed52 Killbox II was specifically designed with the Tyro in mind. As with Killbox II, it was intended to represent a more realistic take of modern combined-arms battlespaces, in this case involving light multi-role aircraft. The Tyro version already has dynamic spawn points. The addition of the Wasp version only works with the limitations provided, otherwise the experience would be radically different.
As with real world OPs, SEAD operations would use their own dedicated strike packages and a kill box type operation would not make sense in such an environment. What you are asking for would be something that is part of its own, separate campaign. I have plans for another campaign following the lore of several other missions and utilizing a variety of air frames for each scenario. I am waiting for AI helicopters to make that a reality.

Could we possibly have more unique craft assortments? Perhaps dynamic spawn slots? 2 seat Tyro is fun, I’d honestly like to see more SEAD/DEAD, but with how the mission is currently, super fun with 8 people.

@skyline
There was a bad value check in the wasp version that broke that. Fixed and removed requirement to kill infs

Myself and a buddy really appreciate the missions but find ourselves stuck on F/A-26 S&D on phase 2. Even tho we take out the whole convoy and infantry (if they squirt) the objective stays unfinished thus preventing the end of phase 2. Let me know if I missed something cause we keep circling naw point and can't seem to find anymore ennemies.

@Crokette The F/A-26B was a requested feature. The mission is not capable of supporting 4 Wasps - it will break the scaling.

@That1Guy Thematic music fitting to the scenario setting and lore was a design decision pointing back to KB1. Playing your own music through the player will override any scripted BGM. Toggleing play will also cancel any songs. Want to turn it off globally at the start? See the feature requests ch. on discord and upvote the "Custom Comms" feature.

@Keyes I had to make this to be enjoyable for everyone. If the mission demands too much attention, it will get review bombed by they iPad generation.. people have complained that there even IS VO. And since you can't request a readback, it would be unfair to not provide enough information to complete the mission if you misheard something.
You have no idea how many times i had to reformat objective descriptions to stay under the character limit and still make sense.

PSA: Turn the music volume off in VTOL

Cool mission. I appreciate the effective and logical placement of MANPADS. Good audio as well, though I wish you demanded more attention from the player. As it is one can probably leave the radio off and follow objective markers/text. I think it would be cool to replace the obj text with the spoken 9 line, though I suspect there isn't enough space for that.. Maybe in the future.

Looking forward to anything else you might make!

Can you remove the phonk in the background? Unnecessary and kinda loud, I want to listen to my own music

Hey can you update it to 4 F/A-26B so I can play with my friends please? Very nice mission I love the comms !

what loadout do you recommend for the T-55? About to load up the game and playtest some liveries I made

@omni for the F/A-26, pack at least 3 CBU-97 - preferably 4. Gbu 12s over 38s since they can be used to bust bunkers and track movers. Good to have a few 38s for small clustered targets like infs in airport, tench, and a couple groups in east/west town. Use gun for cleanup, not just for when ur out.

Best advice - strike targets as directed - theres infor for each. Ignore the trucks in Arty, factory, and abandoned. Don't worry much about infs in east town. Only worry about tanks and ifvs in counter 1&2. Target in clusters in airport, west, and trench. If it's 2 dudes, it's not worth a bomb.

Damn if you're supposed to be able to do this thing without rearming I must suck more than I thought. What's a recommend loadout for that? The convoy objective by itself can take a ton of ordnance, especially if you get the infantry runners (last time I did this I did actually find them and kill them).

- F/A-26 Rearm: I confirmed that the forced rearm is directing to Zal'Zivka as intended, not "all the way across the map." The only way you could be directed to original airbase is if player ignores the auto-waypoint and hits the RTB button under 1 second after completing the last phase 2 mission and never again. Players on the F/A-26B version are not expected to have to fly all the way back to re-arm at any point. If you are struggling to do phase 1 and 2 without re-arming, I suggest running the original T-55 version that has FARPs and The Zal'Zivka Airbase is available 3 minutes after phase 1 is complete.

-JTAC issues: All JTACs are lasing as intended. I made minor adjustments that MAY help raise the likelihood of a good lase, but no guarantees. Unfortunately, inconsistent lasing seems to be a problem with the game itself. Using a JTACs beam is not required on any task, so try buddy lasing or self-lasing if you can't connect to the JTAC beam.

Re: JTAC laser codes
I was able to make to work very inconsistently, my friend flying with me couldn't get it to work at all.
At one point, during "Hardened Garrison", I could only get the laser to appear on the JTAC himself, but not on the target, even when I approached from directly behind him.

@thedreamer. The forced RTB in the F/A-26B should be to Zal'Zivka, not the original take off airbase. I will check that now. As for elective re-arms prior- if you have to re-arm prior to the end of phase 2, then you are doing something wrong. Like KB I, weapons conservation is the name of the game. The return to that airbase prior to the force RTB is a punishment for what would be a game-over in the original.

Having played the mission a few times now, the forced RTB is absolutely brutal in the F26 version, especially if you play solo and just returned from a rearm already. That's 200 miles of flying back and forth.

Also the bump ramp has to stay as it's clearly a feature and not a bug

@inverspe Multiplayer scenarios can only be run in a lobby

im new to the game I cant find it in custom scenarios?

+1 the bump rules, if you have flaps 1 and use the whole runway you should still get it to boost you even at 0.68 TWR. Maybe help it with some backpressure on the stick

Yeah thats fair enough. I know how fickle the editor can be and got forbid you have to delete and entire road and re-draw it to remove one bump. I fear for the every day citizens to accidentally hit that bump at 110kph in their honda civic

@Omni
Infantry do not show up as diamonds. They show up as dots and only if you get a visual track them. I've seen the infs spawn multiple times - scale differences won't upset that.

@Mini I've debated removing the bump (which was accidental, but im scared of repacking). However, several people liked it because it does, in fact, work as a fantastic ramp even with low TWR. You also will have plenty of room if you slowly go over it if you dont want to risk it. It also acts as a good speedbump to prevent players from careening into the FARP lol.

Fantastic mission, an upgrade in every way over the original Killbox!

Playing co-op with one other in a T-55 is as fun as I hoped it would be, with the Tyro able to carry just enough for each phase. Phases are also a welcome addition, being able to refuel, repair, and rearm between sections of the map is nice. It makes for a more relaxed experience which is exactly what I hoped for as opposed to constant SAM warnings and stuff you get from other missions.
One issue I did notice was that at the Highway landing strip in Phase 1 there seems to be a large kink in the road about midway down the runway marked area. In a more powerful jet it'd probably be fine and just act as a takeoff ramp, but in the Tyro with a full load (we were at 0.68TWR fully loaded) we hit it on takeoff and it messed up our takeoff quite massively, causing an aircrash.
I think that's my only criticism of the mission, it's absolutely great otherwise and I only wish there was an option for co-op flight for the EF-24

Will look for them harder next time, but since infantry also show up as red diamonds I'd expect that I'd have found them if they were there. Maybe the infantry spawned too early and they were really far away from where I blew up the convoy or something?

@Omni. The infantry forces in the ifvs bail out after you attack the convoy. If you don't wipe the convoy out quickly and before they can escape, you will have to hunt them down. You don't need to kill all of them, but it's not satisfactory to allow the entire assault force to run into the woods.

Thanks, I'll try that next time! I think I just had a different issue, though. Got the S&D convoy objective in Phase 2. Identified targets and got the comm trigger for that. Think there were ~10 vehicles in a line. Killed them all, but then nothing would trigger. Found 2 armored vehicles hiding out in a town I think to the west, killed them, didn't help. This objective doesn't give you a kill count within OBJ so it's hard to tell exactly what happened, but that whole line got smoked. Also had no red diamonds on NAV even though I was flying around the area low for the next 10 minutes).

Thanks for the map, though, it's great

@Nevan - There was a conditional issue with Strike Storage that broke the success condition for certain scales. I've patched that, thanks for the note!

As for JTACs, I can neither reproduce the issue, nor identify any reasons it is popping up. JTACs in VTOL struggle to track moving targets, but they are able to and it works in my testing.

@Omni - The Drone Bunker task features a Hill Bunker unit. Hill bunkers must be hit in their door or concrete landing pad. The best strat is to set a GPS mark right in the opening, then fly directly at it at a relatively low altitude to sling a GBU in. I've heard Mavs work too.

As for the required re-arm: unfortunately, that is the best way to ensure all units are ready to progress to the "boss" levels. Since phase 3 is concentrated and threats pop up, it is important that all units in a lobby are prepared. Ensuring all units land and take off prevents players from going ahead and triggering the next event before others are ready. The close-in FARP is there to help T-55 players not have to fly all the way back.

I would prefer there be a feedback custom comms system where players can make an MFD selection to confirm their preparedness to allow progression. https://discord.com/channels/319915885575798785/1281700477490167859

Every time a laser code is mentioned in the objective and I've tried to use it, it has not functioned.

Seperately, on my last run, we got stuck on the Strike Storage objective in Phase 3. We spent about 30 minutes flying around looking for a target we might have missed, and couldn't find anything.

Are "underground bunkers" something that's intentionally happening, or a bug? Has happened to me twice now, just recently on the drone base objective in Phase 1. Bunker appears to be mostly underground. The entrance is visible and the TGP can lock on to the entrance and it identifies as an enemy. Nothing I do will kill the thing, though, tried dropping 500lbs on it, CAGMs, AGM65, Vulcan, nothing.

Also +1 would like to not be forced to rearm at the end of phase 2. Played through late night, had to rearm in the middle of phase 2, got back to my buddies just as they finished mopping up. Had to fly right back and land even though I was completely good to go.

Fantastic mission, I expected nothing less!
The one thing that slightly bothers me is the forced rearm/landing before the final objective. If that's kept in I'd rather have it be a waypoint in the sky where you can rendezvous to receive tasking