does no one realise it creates really bad clipping with any horse unit that uses hoplon

Please Update.

Can you please update?

does this affect other cultures? like the Etruscans and Iapygians in rise of the republic?

The Persian Hoplites have a few clipping spots (shoulder, back).
Does this mod fix that too ?

Would it be updated for desert kingdoms patch?

hoplon is panalopy(the hoplite armour in general)

Works fine for me in Grand Campaign, Crowe. Just tested it out with Syracuse and their shields look wonderful. Just this mod activated, no others.

I think this needs a patch for Empire Divided DLC/Patch. My Hoplites all have grey sheilds now.

Oh yeah :) Subscribing now

This mod is fantastic. I've included it (with all credit given) in the Community Patch!

hoplons was the shields of hoplites

Aspides, not hoplons. ;) Hoplon just refers to any weapon/tool of war.

DEI 1.1 will have this in it and fixed ;)

GREAT MOD !! Thx ! But i have the same probleme that "kwnic", with DEI i have someone original shields...
Mainly with sparta i think.

Sry for my bad english

this increases the size of hoplons like wos hoplons?

i'm subscribed but it doesn't download anything, tried to restart but still nothing. help please!

Can anybody tell me why this mod doesnt work in wrath of sparta campaign ???
:(

Thanks for this mod! Just wanted to to let you know I noticed several units still have the original smaller shields while using DEI. They might be another shield model DEI is using that this mod isn't overriding.

@FiliusRomae turn your shader model up, it worked for me

guys I have a problem with my vanilla hoplon shields, ALL of the shield image are of fucking bees. Help?

This is a really great mod, love the new shield size but I think that the size causes problems for hoplon-wielding cavalry such as citizen cavalry, aspis companion cavalry and carthaginian cavalry. I looks great for infantry but on horseback the shield clips into the side of the horse quite much. I think having cavalry wield the old, smaller hoplon would look better while still keeping it like this for infantry (for whom it looks superb!)
Thanks for this mod! :D

can you fix the sheilds on the ship the look stupid there like in the ship thx :)

It seems the rotation angle of the shield is too much imo. It leaves a lot of gap during phalanx formation and clip with the cloak of some of the units. May I suggest you rotate the shield to the front a bit? I'm sure it will look much better.

And I also think that you should apply this new hoplon to officers and generals as well, now their shields looks tiny(er) comparing to normal soldiers.

Great mod man, hoplons finally overlap in phalanx like they're suppose to. Love this mod.

@Chris - Yes, no issues with save games.

@Tenerife - Thanks for the info, I'll have a look too. Probably linked in to the amount of retexturing and modelling Aetla and his team did.

Yea I added them in my mods as well, the problem is I noticed the handles on those shield models are missing........I swear CA can be lazy sometimes.

Caratacus, of course. I use the famous Little Legionarie pack, check italian units and the ones that I mention. I have reported this to Aetla the LL Leader. so Let's see what happens...

Thanks for your work mate.

Is this save game compatible?

@DogSoldierSPQR - I'm only using the existing model from the WoS update, so there's really no need to ask permission :) For reference, the old shield models follow the naming convention hellenic_shield_hoplon, while the new ones go like gre_hellenic_shield_hoplon. I look forward to seeing what you do!

@Tenerife_Boy - Are these issues occuring while running the other mod too? I've checking out the units you highlighted and, in my game at least, they appear to be using the new model.

@Mango - I take it this wasn't happening before you installed? I'll have a look into this, thanks.

@[NOVA] Tenerife_Boy, Samnite Warriors aswell. Nothing but bee's on their shields. "NOT THE BEES AAARGH"

Thanks for keeping this updated

After installing this I noticed that during some combat animations the shield would totally disappear from a soldier and reappear once the animation was finshed. It seems to affect every faction and shield model except the scutum. Removing the mod did not fix the issue for me. Otherwise works as it should, just something to look out for :)

Ouh yeah, it's wonderful to see. Still theres a few units here and there than don't get the new hoplons...is this because of the beta stage of your mod?
Perikoi hoplites (spartans)
Regular hoplites
Picked Hoplites (the one that can be also general unit)

Those 3 for the moment I've found.

@roidunord - No, you don't need WoS for this to work for you :3

Why in the hell would they not translate that fix across campaigns? I am sad that you had to do this :( I hope they realize they are morons and implement this fix into the base game.

do i need the WOS dlc to use this?
thanks

@ Tenerife_Boy / Sebidee - This mod should be compatible with pretty much any unit pack. For those interested in the tech side, it replaces the original hoplons rigid_model_v2 files, so avoids any complications with VMDs. The shield patterns are applied in the same way as before but to a (slightly) different model, so there's no issue with those.

@ Javilos - Yes, this does replace the GC hoplons. And any other campaigns where the hoplons used were the original, smaller kind.

So this mod doesent replace the grand campaign hoplons?

So this definitely works with Notitia Dignitatum? Cool.

Is this compatible with Little Legionarie's mod?
Thank you and Happy New Year!!

now with your mod many new hoplite units in grand camp now wear big hoplon . Thank so much

Awesome!

@Caratacus, awesome then! :D

@Kronuxen - Provided the unit in question uses the original shield model, yes it will have no problems incorporating other skins and designs.

Will this mode be compatible with an overhaul such as Divide et Impera which adds new skins to the shields?

@Aaron - New shield models for hoplites to stop spear heads clipping through a neighbours shield when the unit is in combat.

what fixes did wrath of sparta apply exactly?

#BadassOverHere

Hoplon is the shield in ancient greek, not in modern greek.