Stronger then who?

dude, east rome was stronger

Try to deactivade some mods and see if it still comes up.

I tried it as the visigoths but the "other" was still at 3000.

Thank you, I had been looking for something to make things a bit more desperate, to give me some actual incentive to go looting - this does the trick nicely.

Okay man thanks for the quick response! Giving it a go now, playing on hard rather than very hard, don't want to play too close too the vandals but will be cautious, maybe try and settle in Egypt or Africa :D

Seem an awesome mod!

Almost every faction will have a minus in-come in the first turn, they will act very differently than in the normal game, either they act, die or bring a civil-war faction with them. Most of the time they act...
The alans, in reality, were more like a support horde for the vandals.
As the alans, you should really work with your ally for the first few turns, backstabbing is a no-go.

horde stance = encamped, yeeeees

And sorry by horde stance do you mean encamped?

Goddam that sounds like a stressful introduction to the horde mechanics :P Any chance you can buff the Alani income at all? I do appreciate these kind of needy questions are pretty annoying, so feel free to tell me to fuck off! :P It's your vision of course. I just like the idea of the historical balance and accuracy, it's just it's quite a severe drop. Maybe bring it down from 3000 to 1000?

Hordes only get -25% upkeep for they leave some men at the camp/horde, so they can't raid with the same amount of succes as a normal army.
Its also a little bit of help for the AI, in the vanilla game, they prefer to raid then to get in the horde stance.

It is true, playing as the alans can be tough with this mod. You should try to build a artisan in every horde you got, later on, the bone carver.
Also, moving to your ally, the vandals, will help.
Delete some units,move around in more fertile land and try to end your turn always in the horde stance.

Also sorry to spam, but just noticed that if I go in raiding stance I still get vanilla integrity values, as well as the upkeep reduction staying at 25 rather than 30 %.

Hey man, love the concept of the mod but just started an alani campaign and struggling with the 600 basic leaving me with -2k turn one. Is there some element to Horde management that overcoems this (I've tried raiding) or is there any way you can change it to be a little less brutal on the player? Sorry to complain, just a bit confused.

thank you for the reply.

Probably yes.

Does this effect AOC as well?