@thades thanks for replying! I didn't realize that I commented in the legacy one, but yes i am using the WotC one! :)

@kakorot411 also just incase, this is the Legacy version for non Wrath of the Chosen. So if you have Wrath of the Chosen, you need my other version of this mod to work at all.

Hi @kakorat411! I get it, when I play, I run tons of mods too, and debugging them is super frustrating. The short answer is: each of my XCOM mods (including this one) work with the UI classes which a LOT of mods tend to override..and if those classes are overriden, my mods straight up wont work (will silently and politely fail to appear at all) so anything that messes specifically with the soldier edit screens should be where you focus your suspicions, with a side of any complete overhauls. My mods definitely still work <3 I use em haha, and other folks do too. :)

I know this hasn't been commented on in a while, but I'm trying to get this mod to work, but I have a bunch of mods (-230) and it would take me forever to figure out which one is causing the issue, I was wondering if it was the load order of the mods that could be it and what order this one should be in. Thanks for any help.

Correct, controller's not supported by any of my mods: they assume mouse+KB (because controller support's a LOT of work and my time is very limited).

Can't select the options with a controller. Only with mouse it seems.. and since you can't use ccontroller+mouse

Please could you make it compatible for 21:9 screen ? Thanks

@Gingerbread_Matt then it's either a screen res issue (what screen res are you using?) or a mod conflict (it's usually a mod conflict).

Whatever mods you have that add items, armor pieces, or change the armory UI in any way stand a good chance of tripping over mine...or rather, mine will just fail as I built it to step aside rather than fight with other mods. (Nobody wins in those fights, so it's best to not engage. ;) )

At some point the devs changed how mods load and are marked for loading...and so unchecking them doesn't necessarily actually turn the mod(s) off. Check out /XComGame/Config/DefaultModOptions.ini and you may see that the mods are still listed as "active" even tho you've unchecked them. Delete em all (every line in that file) then load the game back up with them unchecked and you may get to see my mod working finally. Then you can activate mods one by one til you find the one that conflicts.

I hope that helps!

@thade no it's the original game

@Gingerbread_Matt, this is the Legacy version...are you playing WOTC? You need the updated version to work with that.

It doesn't seem to be working for me. I've disabled all other mods but it's behaving like it isn't even enabled. Any reason why?

@thade you are the light which colors our world!

@Pray, thank you for beliv in me bb

WOTC version is up! It's here: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1215679398

we beliv in u bb

Update for anybody following this: this is the mod on my workbench right now. You maybe have noticed that - in WOTC - some number of the buttons moved around in the Customization UI screen family and you might be thinking that alone requires work on my part: you'd be right. :)

This particular project will take me a while as the best way to do it is basically from scratch, keeping the UI elements I built but changing how everything's wired up under the hood.

To be honest, I miss having this for bog standard soldiers but don't really see much utility in it being used for the three new classes as, frankly, they have so few things to randomize, so I may explicitly omit implementing it for them. (That's where I currently am, but that may change.)

I have no timeline on this, but I am working on it in what little spare time I have.

So, if you have feature requests or change requests, now's the time to put them out to me because I'm in the design phase.

But the best clones make themselves a name, you know ;)
Only the best deserve honor

Sounds moddable, but it'd likely be a (maybe complicated) Unreal Script class override and not a simple INI change. It's also - forgive me for saying so, no judgement implied here - it's also counter to the entire design of the game, where soldiers are unique and their deaths are meant to be felt by the player. Having a squad full of clones isn't really XCOM, you know?

That said, you do you. :)

Another question: Doesn't really has to do with your mod but I find it nowhere...

Is it possible that the character pool draws one unit multiple times?
Normally when you have for example "Martin Luther" in your character pool as only character and you set "CharacterPoolOnly" then you will get him in your first mission and then the game starts creating random soldiers.
But sometimes I would love to have multiple "Martin Luther"s. As long he has the same name he will only get drawn from the pool once. Even though I got him in the pool like ten times. Which is sad when you make a pool full of "Clone Trooper"s

You have any idea to encounter my problem?

If you mean "No random heads" the mod does in fact do that. :) If you click "Toggle Options" and open up the panel, you can click the checkboxes to "lock" specific slots (like the head) to prevent it from being rolled at all.

Yea like this "No random heads". But this doesn't work there tbh ^^

Maybe you make it work!

Thanks for the quick and detailed answers, my lord

@erYsch, unfortunately I can't think of an easy way for the end-user to do what you're suggesting: the code asks the game "how many props for this slot are there?" then casts a dice (basically) that's got as many sides as there are props for a given slot.

Potentially I could add code to read the mod's config file for prop names to ignore; that I can look into. I'll add it to the list. :) I'm about to dive into making the WOTC version which will require a really heavy refactor so that's on my plate first.

edit: Miswrote stuff, am sry

I meant parts which were taken from the generator for random characters before a fix would have been applied

You totally got what I wanted to say lel.

If you know these Star Wars Species mods where you also get "Invisible Heads" or Alien Heads on normal human heads, you're done with live when this rolls randomly. Do you have any idea where I can pull this out of the randomizor? x)

Hi @erYsch, I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean by "Can you disable parts taken randomly before?" Before..what? The mod allows you to 'lock' specific body *slots* but not prevent *props* from being elligible to come up in a random roll. That's not on the wishlist even...it would require kind of a big deal UI overhaul for the mod, I think.

Can you disable parts taken randomly before?
Like specific armor props. Am looking for something like this
or face props etc

Hi @p6kocka! I'm glad you like the mod. First, I should mention I've only just gotten back to my home system and have yet to find a large enough block of time for mod work (I'm trying) so it may be some time.

I'm not sure how I could make your feature in a satisfying way. Off the cuff, I could make a "Lock filters" checkbox that persists across the parent UI classes (Armory or the Character Pool) but that could get ugly. Maybe I could require it be turned on in the config file.

I'll give it some thought. :) Thanks for the suggestion!

Thank you for the mod. One question. Is it possible to set filter once for every soldier so I don't have to set it for each one of them. What I don't want to randomize is fave, hair, eye color...

Once my life calms down, @Idlemind. I managed to get the new tools all downloaded and setup, but haven't been able to really build or test with the new stuff yet. People report it's mostly working as-is so you may find that too.

Mostly works. Some stuff like Torso Gear for the faction soldiers doesnt change though.

So far it's been working for me except for the facepaint option. I double checked with the facepaint option not locked and it never changed. Every other option works just like it did in vanilla.

Works perfectly with WOTC. Really essential mod for me.

Ditto. Works the same on WOTC as it did with the vanilla game.

It works perfectly with WotC for me. I think it's compatible.

Any word on WOTC compatibility?

Great idea I cant believe this wasnt in the base game

Just came here from AdmiralBahroo stream. This mod is perfect !!! Love it

@Archwing Ruler: yes, it works in LW2; works in-game as well as in character pool. If you don't see the buttons in-game, very very likely another mod you're running is overriding mine.

Ok in all honesty, the does this mod work in Long War 2? I cant find any of the aforementioned features in the mod anywhere.

Where is the toggle options button? Does this only work in Character pool or in game customization? I cant find it.

@ObelixDk Thank you :) And awesome. I can't make any promises, but as requests go that's a really easy one to hit, so it's within bounds.

Setting defaults in config would be ok... oh and big congrats on the baby :)

That I could maybe arrange, actually. My wife is (no joke) going to give birth in a few days tho so my time's pretty strapped. :) Would you be cool setting defaults in the config? That'd be trivial for me to expose, I might actually have time this week for it.

damn.. would be a nice little thing though :)

is there any way of having some things in the options checked by default (like head / race and so on)?

Hi @Obelix! I haven't, I'm afraid. Not much demand for it, and my time these days is pretty limited.

have you thought about releasing a combined version of the 3 "randomizers" mods you have?

I don't know, but totally random voices on soldiers could be really funny. I respect your decision though.

Hi @Xzerox. Unfortunately there's just no satisfying way to do it, not in a way that works with any VPs the user might choose to download. Firaxis would have to overhaul how they handle VPs, or I'd have to require the user to make and maintain some kind of config files, matching up custom (non vanilla) VPs with nationalities: lot of heavy lifting. The button could be totally random, but that would seem weird, I think.

Also, making it more complicated, sometimes custom VPs can straight up conflict with my mods for reasons I've never been able to determine. :\

So, I'm afraid, I'm still stuck on "Won't implement." Sorry for that.

Have you reconsidered your stance on randomizing voice packs?

Fair enough. I'll leave this thread subscribed - just in case. :-D

@insufferable smartypants. I don't *believe* so, but it's not out of the question. This mod is intimately tied to the Armory UI which I'm pretty sure doesn't touch the VIPs, but if there's a random VIP appearance thing anywhere, I could maybe find it and attach/enhance a button to it haha. It might be some time before I get a chance to try and find it though, I'm afraid. :(

Not a quick fix, that's for certain. Sorry I don't have better news.