Can other rulers outside your domain ask for loans?

What is the event id to make someone to ask for loan from me?

still work? Nobody wants money from me?!

does this still work?

any chance you can walk me through how to merge mods? i am pulling my hair out. please save my hair.

so does slavery.

ck2 is weird. *shrug*

it works witout dependency for after the end.

add a dependency for after the end. mod's contained so should work with anything.

how would i make this work for After the end?

Based.

shouldnt need updating as it's self contained

update please, this mod sounds kosher as fuck

In case you plan to fix this mod, the problem here is that the AI can't pay the loans. At least in AGOT mod, after the loan is expired, the AI gets the option to pay but the loaner never recieves the gold. Nor does the AI lose the option to pay the loan. This results in the AI always being in the "Loans coming due" section of the loan book, and you can see their wealth coming down 125 by 125, which supposedly means they're trying to pay but something is not working right. No matter how much they try to send their payment, it never arrives.

It's a player only system so don't become a loaner unless you want to.

no, there's no commands to do so and I'm mostly certain that without marriage ties pacts and alliances are quickly broken by the game.

http://citadel.prophpbb.com/topic13057.html

Here's a hotfix they released for 1.4 that says it'll help with CTDs

Alright, made this, you can post on it. https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=740970384

As for the other thing, I'm not part of the AGOT Team, I just know they don't like submods in their bug reports. If it's not caused by my mod(usually isn't) then there's nothing I can really do to fix it. It seems to me to be a random crash with AGOT from what I've read in that thread, so IDK if there's anything they can do to fix it either.

I know I'm commenting quite a bit, but you seem to be online right now, I have several suggested improvements for this mod that could make it a tincy bit more advanced.

Realised that later, if you could hop on over and look at the links I uploaded, I promised I wont do the submod thing again. Otherwise I'll just delete/ask for it deleted.

Did you turn off my submods and see if it's repeatable with base AGOT. They don't like people posting about bugs when they're using submods.

I keep on getting crashes and problems, I am also posting this problem on the citadel, but I played a Baelish game and it keeps on crashing consistently on a consistent date 19 December 7 years after the Clash Of Kings book mark. https://citadel.prophpbb.com/topic13114.html

Ah, well that's only updated for 1.3 so not a good idea to use it outside that version.

I have found the problem. I disabled Rainbow Weddings and it got rid of it.

sounds like a broken decision but none of the code in this has a revoke_allowed tag.

By that I mean If I loan out 100 dragons as Tywin, then want to stop loaning out. I can't see my books if I don't choose to loan out money, can I still recieve the loans already gave out.

Incidentally I found the answer to this question, it is yes.

Second thing, since I enabled this mod, I have two interactions on everyone one is something ala "ai_will_do"
"revoke_allowed"

You need to declare yourself a loaner in order to give out loans. You should be able take loans yourself if someone else is a loaner.

Do you need the loaner tag to recieve loans?

When they need it? All of them should be working for 1.3.2

when will you update all your sub mods for the game of thrones mod

Works fine. Consider expanding this for a negotiable interest rate, when you find time and fun for it. So aristocrats in really bad situation are willing to pay back with higher interest, out of despair. But anyway, it works fine as it is now, again my regards.

Ah ok I'm not familiar with how ck2 mods work. That's a shame, would love to be able to become the ultimate sheckel master as a Jewish nation, that way I can both take loans, expel Jews, AND give loans to everyone else for infinite money.

It still looks at every character to see if they are indy same religion group rulers.

Hmm you could limit it to independent same religion group rulers.

All filter is deemed resource intensive and can cause crashing because of it.

Btw any interest in allowing foreign realms to ask for loans?

Gotcha, thanks for the quick response! I'm starting a playthrough as Jewish Ethiopia and I felt that I needed a loan mechanic >:).

Same realm. You can gain a claim on their primary title if they default.

What are the restrictions for giving loans aside from count+? Do they have to be same religion group or a vassal of yours? If so, could you think about allowing foreign nearby rulers to ask for loans? Maybe even giving some sort of CB if they default?

A1. Favors are part of Conclave, you can trade them in to force people to do things like join your factions or vote with you in council.

A2. Not anytime soon, if ever.

Doubt I'll implement a complex interest system.

Repayment takes the money from them before you are informed of it and repayment options are only available if they have more than 125 gold.

I have a few questions and an idea.

Q1.What exactly can you do with favors?Righjt now I see no point in assking for a favor as all it sems to do is let people off scot free

Q2.Will Npc be able to become loaners?

Idea:As far as I see there is no interest rate accrued when a person has a debt extended.This should be made into two options maybe with an opnion bonus. Like "Extend for year no interest" or "Extend for year wirh 5% interest". You should effectively be able to use your economy as a weapon by making families indebted to you greatly.

On a side note it seems people I lend money to that pay me back either have their normal gold amount or like -2000 for some strange reason.

Thanks. I'm starting an Agot playthrough now. Should b good.

Realm counts+ have to be in debt to seek a loan, if you don't have anyone who's in debt then they won't ask for a loan.

I tried this and havn't managed to get any loaners yet. Do I jut keep waiting? (I have the trait and lots o'gold.)

alright added it and added an option for a defaulter's liege to repay the debt.

I'll list adding a religious opinion penalty for being a loaner then.

Is there interest applied? If I'm not mistaken doesn't Islam, Judaism, and Christianity have rules against charging interest on a loan, especially towards members of one's own faith? Giving out loans to same-religion debtors should come with a Piety cost, something along the lines of -25 or so. There are more complicated rules concerning religion on debt and I believe that fueled quite a bit of anti-Semetism.

Didn't link them fleeing to the informer, should tell you they've fled now.

Splendid. The switching of responsibility towards actual lieges concerned with the vassal in debt makes sense. Thanks for observing this detail question, adding more to immersion of the game.

Added an imprison option, If they are your vassal then it directly goes to them, if they are someone else's vassal than it goes to their liege, who can agree with you are protect their vassal. The debtor can come quietly or flee to foreign court(or Nightswatch for AGOT). If you imprison them within 10 years of declaring them a defaultor you can work them for a year and recoup your money.