Hey, is it possible to make the mod harsher?
Currently if an exclave is owned by a vassal who is generally connected to the main kingdom, the exclave can stay within the realm for 1-2 ruler deaths.

Little heads up for everyone who thinks the vanilla exclave independence is a substitute for this:

IT'S NOT. It doesn't work.

I use a number of other mods, one being a mod where revolts sometimes break up into independent kingdoms. On such was an empire of Ohrid, which was a horrible bordergore empire with small exclaves all over the game world. No matter how many times I killed its emperor via console commands, the exclaves remained. It wasn't until I used this mod when they finally broke apart.

And yes, this does work with the vanilla game rules. And yes, it does work with the current version of the game.

@masonbaldassano i want to know that too

@jruderman, could you make a version that happen like 10 years instead upon death, or maybe help me to do a personal one at least xD

@Greatot it work greatly

No longer seems to work?

Make this mod in CK3 too please :(

if i turn on the vanilla exclave indipendence does it cancel out the mod

Very useful for whom still plays WTWSMS, "cries in slow updates..."

I dont think so

Quick note - this is now available as a default rule as of Holy Fury. :)

https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Game_rules#Exclave_Independence

Can u make that ai exclaves can be purged during or after a war?

Good mod, much better than the one compared to what paradox offers now. However, is it possible you could new game rules based on distance from your capital as well? for example, anything over 200 miles from your capital could have a chance to break away from you? rather than over 2 sea zones for example? I see so much potential here.

love this mod, man! great work.

This mod only adds new files, so it's likely to work with overhauls. Previous comments indicate that it seems to work with CK2+ and with HIP.

Not relevant right now as they're still being updated but is this compatible with overhauls?

Updated to fix a syntax error that CKII 3.0's improved parser complained about. I don't think it kept the mod from working, but wanted to be on the safe side.

I wasn't able to reproduce the "new characters have no traits" issue. (I gave c_genoa to the Duke of Apulia, then killed him; the character generated to be ruler of c_genoa had an education trait and some personality traits.)

dude update please your mod is better than vanilla exclave independence

New characters have no traits

i think i need to disable the vanilla exclave and choose only of the mod?

Please, keep updated, vanilla is not good enough, even in the most severe option.

I love the rule which directly allows you to limit the naval distance! Frankly, they should add that option into the base game alongside the current game rule they have for exclave independence. Well thought out!

In case you were thinking of taking this down, I want to say I still like your take on this better than Paradox's implementation.

best mod ever

Oh my god I hope this is the solution to CK2 bordergore

does it work with hip?

Cheers for the update mate, good mod.

Thanks for the update. Will be using this in my current WC game. Will hopefully be very useful.

Updated to fix several issues and add in-game notifications when you lose or gain vassals.

Full change notes

Will this work with HIP?

That is correct. Creating the Kingdom of Sicily is one way to avoid losing the land.

>De jure lands are the provinces under all of the dying ruler's primary-tier titles

Does this mean for example, that if I am both the king of Ireland and Sicily, I will not lose Sicily, but if I only hold duchies in Sicily, they will be lost?

You are a legend, I think you may have inspired Paradox to add this feature to the base game.

Hmm, indeed, the megawar system may screw up with empires. I play mostly smaller independent rulers so it was never a problem for me.

Thankfully, Paradox will add its own Exclave Independence rule, and it will be somewhat more powerful and flexible. Big thanks to @jruderman for making this mod and cutting the border gore of so many of my games!

Doesnt really work for the AGOT mod, I have it set to no sea zones if not de jure and Pentos still remains under the Iron Throne albeit going "independent" at succession. I suspect the civil war rules might be at play here.

Incidentally, it would be great if you kept this mod up regardless of what gets implemented in the game rules. Nice to be able to check the mod on and off as desired rather than getting stuck with what rules one's chosen.

@wyoming: if it would be my mod, I would feel awesome. Mods are not "stolen" by the devs. Since you don't have owning rights on them to begin with...

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-dev-diary-81-cleaning-up-the-map.1087927/&utm_source=launch-steam&utm_medium=launcher&utm_content=post&utm_campaign=hofu_hoi_201849_pla_dd

How do you feel about Paradox basically stealing your mod? Did they notify you?

Will this mod still be up after Paradox announced their bordergore-fix? I hope it does, I like this implementation a lot better!

DIE BORDERGORE DIE!!!

@G.Strategos

I am not the mod author, but as far as I know 1) it's compatible with HIP and pretty much every other mod, even total conversions like AGOT and 2) there are no CBs.

Best mod ever :)

@jruderman
Hey mate. Thanks for your mod.
I have a question though. What about HIP compatibility ? Your mod includes any CBs at all ?
Cheers.

I was very sceptical at first, mostly because the mod seems not to factor in demesne/vassal limit, but the results are fabulous. The world feels really dynamic and naturally evolving, and unreasonable is much less an issue now.

This mod is brilliant.

I think the mod's default should be "Two sea zones"; which is compatible with most of CK2's limits (e.g. the holy war CB). The current default makes William of Normandy lose, well, Normandy as soon as succession happens.

Thank you for the quick response. That's actually the default setting I was hoping for.

The default is "no sea connections". You can edit the game rules section at the top of your save file if you prefer another setting.

Thinking of using this mod in an ongoing game, what would the default sea zone setting be?