Sad that KEEN killed this mod. Now i must use custom turret controller and build wonky rotor turret for ability to hide it in celling (turret on piston)

If you're looking to place turrets closer to blocks, I recommend this one https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1241560850 it is still working as I am using it on my server.

Yeah, Keen broke how subparts physics works. It's not possible without performance affecting hacks now.

This dose not seem to work? i can not build closer to the turrets?

This doesn't seem to be working completely right anymore. I've verified it is allowing collision models in the subparts to be drawn with the script however physics is not being applied and the physics models do not move with the subparts.

I was wondering if there was any way I could convince you to combine you mod with this one: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1241560850 This combination would be the perfect fix for the vanilla "Clumsilly Space Hogging" turrets. I will also ask the mod author of the posted link the same thing. Cheers.

Hey guys, I am just starting to mod space engineers and I have created a new missile turret, I've got it in game and everything is working, except for the collision. I was pointed to this mod from a guy on discord, however I cannot get this to work with my mod. I'm sure there is something I am doing wrong. If anyone has figured out how to use this with your mod could you please tell me how you have done it? Thanks.

It's a bug with the game now, just wait for the next Space Engineers update or use the:
Welding Workaround and Hand Tools Fix mod
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=905086000

I just tried to build a turret... and it crashed? what the?

So Phoenix, can we just call this "How Turret.. and eventually player models, SHOULD be." ?

Yes, that's because that other mod replaces the models.
I have no plans to release another version that changes the placement size.

@Phoenix So apparently it appears that placement mods and this mod aren't compatible after all, unfortunately. Loading both at the same time causes me to either get the placement changes or the collision changes, depending on load order, but never both. Do you think you could release a version of this that modifies the placement ability after all?

For reference, the mod I was using for testing was this one: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=533106878
If you happen to know of another mod that DOES work alongside yours, would you mind pointing me to it?

I'm aware of those warnings. They are not causing any issues.

[DEV]
mod_warning: [STABLE/DEV] Better Turrets (Modding Support)
in file:
**WARNING!**
Script for MyObjectBuilder_LargeMissileTurret is using the obsolete MyEntityComponentDescriptor overload!
You must use the 3 parameter overload to properly register script updates!
This script will most likely not work as intended!

[Dev]
mod_warning: [STABLE/DEV] Better Turrets (Modding Support)
in file:
**WARNING!**
Script for MyObjectBuilder_LargeGatlingTurret is using the obsolete MyEntityComponentDescriptor overload!
You must use the 3 parameter overload to properly register script updates!
This script will most likely not work as intended!

Yes, it's compatible. You'll just need to place this before the mod that lowers the footprint.

I know you chose to keep the turret's placement box the same for balance reasons, but are mods that alter turrets so that they have a reduced footprint compatible with this?

I don't particularly care to spam a million turrets on my ship, but I do like recessed and armored turrets, and it would be nice if I could do that with the vanilla turrets. I used to use ravenbolt's compact turrets, but seeing as he's no longer modding and his mods are woefully out of date, they're no longer an option.

I'm unwilling to give up your new and much improved hitboxes, and I don't want to resort to rotor turrets for fear of clang (it would defeat the point of improving the turret hitbox, anyway), but I'm desperate for a recessed turret without adding new blocks. If turret placement mods are incompatible, could you perhaps release a version of this that reduces the footprint to 1x2x1?

Oh, didn.t check that, but i see comments from hours ago saying it.s great and all.

@Kek, Perhaps you should look closer at the screenshot, also the release date. :-)

Does this work with the new models?

Rated up, very nice!

INB4 VANNILA

Keen, please replace. Is too sexy to pass up.

Awsome, Keen pls

@KC Pilot, That wasn't the only reason. Aragath mentioned in a stream that they looked at reducing the size to 1x1x2, but it was too easy to spam turrets on ships and it didn't look right.
So I gather keen has no interest in changing the block size, even if the collision models are changed.

I hate how turrets can get blown up so easily by thrusters, so thank you!

Keen needs to add this, im tired of turrets killing each other.

Yes you can, i've tested it

So, CAN you get crushed to death if you stand under a turret and it moves wrong? :3

lols to the pros and cons

Well, if you want the devs to notice why not post of the forums and/or share it with everyone you know.

Does this introduce any performance issues now that there is a custom hitbox for every part of the turret?

@Potato Aim I'm almost certain they didn't include it for performance reasons and for the sake of turrets' idle animation not being deadly in survival

The only reason for the 3x3 base was because this was not possible before, so why not change the base to 1x1 now since this is now possible?

this is what should be done.

Anyway we can put this to the daylight so the dev include it in the base game ?

This should be in the game by default. Hopefully the devs can learn a thing or two from you my friend.

Upvoted.
Why is this missing from the vanilla game??

why is this not in the base game then, great mod!

Oh nice.

This works on STABLE now. I'll remove the warning flag next time I update, as I need to post a fix to work around issues with voxels.

Somehow I thought this read "Baller Turrets," like gold turrets that fire gold bullets and gold plated missiles. :|
I wonder if there's a way to force the minimum font size on Steam...

Because, until the last update (01.172 STABLE), the functions were only available on DEV.

Just currious, Why dev only?

Modders being better than keen as usual.

Well, it's got support for them! All modders need to do is take advantage of this new system.

Now... modded turrets need to get these boxes..

It probably works in Stable, now, if the ModAPI changes were ported.

;-; possible for stable?

@Phoenix can you add me please, I want to use your epic script for the Azimuth mods. :D