Total War: ROME II - Emperor Edition

Total War: ROME II - Emperor Edition

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DGamer 2022년 5월 13일 오전 8시 16분
MOD REQUEST
Salve rome 2 friends! I'm in need for a sub mod for a mod, a new fantastic reskin mod called Sol Invictus from the Rome 2 HD team has recently come out, it is for the Empire Divided campaign and affects the 3 roman factions of Palmyra, Aurelian Rome and Gallic Rome.

Its great but there is a certain detail that kinda bothers me, there is an specific helmet type called the imperial italic H which is not being used by the main roman faction of Aurelian's Rome, Gallic Rome is the faction that currently use it for some of its units. I was wondering if any modder would be interesting in developing therefore a sub mod that change the current intercisa type (and all its variants) helmet being used by several of Aurelian's units and replace them with the imperial italic H.

Contact with the mod developer would be necessary to obtain permission and in order to specify the exact model/asset required for the development of the sub mod. I would ask the developer and if permission was granted I would do it, but I'm afraid that I know nothing when it comes to actual modding, that is why I appeal to you all, Gods of modding in this most august community.

If you were to accept this task and permission from the author was granted, the following units of Aurelian's Rome should be reworked:
Roman levies, roman legionaries, Cohors, evocati, and Praetorians.

I thank you all for your attention.
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Kagarino Kirie 10 2022년 5월 17일 오전 10시 18분 
The Italic H is alit bit old for Aurelian faction. I can reconsider and gave that helmet to Aurelian Legionaries and Evocati because they are veterans. If you agree with this decision, I will make it into official mod.
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Albert 2022년 5월 17일 오전 11시 07분 
@Mr D: yes i think the same very well explained
Albert 2022년 5월 17일 오전 11시 08분 
the gallic faction looks like the real roman faction, we need their helmets for the aurelian faction
DGamer 2022년 5월 17일 오전 11시 09분 
Kagarino Kirie 님이 먼저 게시:
The Italic H is alit bit old for Aurelian faction. I can reconsider and gave that helmet to Aurelian Legionaries and Evocati. But the Intercisa will stay.

Hey @Kagarino! thank you so much for replying to me! :D, I understand, and it would be marvelous if you give them to Aurelian's troops as well, even if its mixed with intercisa. I apologize for this rather long response, I'm passionate about ancient Rome! so please forgive me while I try to explain and justify my request.

I've study roman military history on my own and for what I understand the imperial army would've looked closer in image to the very late 2nd century model (niederbiber, italic H etc) because of the confussion and constant civil wars and barbarian incursions there wasnt really time nor the logistics to focuss on mass production of newer pieces of equipment such as the intercisa helmets, which some historians think that they might have become a bit more common from 284 onwards, when emperor Diocletian took power and stabilize even further the situation to the point of becoming the emperor who ended the crisis of the 3rd century. (Its still very valid the way the mod depicts the troops).

I just thought its a bit too many, would've love if there was a reversed looked between Gallic Rome infantry and Aurelian's, except Aurelian should also keep the fantastic scale coifs (in other words a mix of niederbieber, italic h and scale coifs)..

Although Aurelian restored and unified the empire once more, it was Diolcetian who finished the work and introduced new military tactics and reforms, mass production was finally able to be put to use in a more effective way with no more interruptions due to wars and other factors.
Kagarino Kirie 10 2022년 5월 17일 오전 11시 18분 
I think it's the opposite. THe Gallic Rome is the older part of the Empire, they should have old helmets like Italic H. But Aurelian need to supply his men fast with a cheap and simple helmet like Intercisa. Sure I can reduce their numbers and give LEgionaries and Evocati some Italic H. But fresh recruits like Levies can not have Italic H. That is not my own decision, but the whole design was based on Celticus's will as well.
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DGamer 2022년 5월 17일 오전 11시 32분 
Kagarino Kirie 님이 먼저 게시:
I think it's the opposite. THe Gallic Rome is the older part of the Empire, they should have old helmets like Italic H. But Aurelian need to supply his men fast with a cheap and simple helmet like Intercisa. Sure I can reduce their numbers and give LEgionaries and Evocati some Italic H. But fresh recruits like Levies can not have Italic H. That is not my own decision, but the whole design was based on Celticus's will as well.

@Kagarino, sounds good to me! any posibility for giving the italic h to Aurelian cohort unit as well?
Thank you and the rest of the HD Team for all the magnificent work you guys have done!!! there's now not a single campaign in which I dont use the HD Rome mods.
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Albert 2022년 5월 17일 오후 12시 15분 
The roman levies, Herculianii, Jovianii and cohors they could use Late Roman helmet but the legionary cohort, pareatorians, evocati cohort and some men of the cohors I think they could use the niederbiber helmet and the itallic helmet, and the evocati cohort and legionary cohort they could mixt the late lorica segmentata and other armors like hamata.
Thanks a lot for all the work :)
DGamer 2022년 5월 17일 오후 3시 14분 
Albert 님이 먼저 게시:
The roman levies, Herculianii, Jovianii and cohors they could use Late Roman helmet but the legionary cohort, pareatorians, evocati cohort and some men of the cohors I think they could use the niederbiber helmet and the itallic helmet, and the evocati cohort and legionary cohort they could mixt the late lorica segmentata and other armors like hamata.
Thanks a lot for all the work :)

@Albert, Indeed, I believe the herculianni and Jovianii are from the time of Diocletian?
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Kagarino Kirie 10 2022년 5월 17일 오후 8시 40분 
Herculianni and Jovianii are late units, they were no supposed to be in that era. But CA put them in so we reskinned them anyway. Legionaries and Evocati may have the old stuffs, but the praetorians as I have seen from many ref pictures, they all wear the latest and finest helmets, rich people don't use old helmets. Plus the legionaries and evocati already have segmentata.
Albert 2022년 5월 18일 오후 12시 18분 
@Mr D, I know Herculiani and Jovian are from another century, but CA make it in that DLC,
you're right these units are from after III century.
@ Kagarino Kirie, praeteorian cohort is perfect in the actual mod, but if you can ad some niederbiber helmet and the itallic helmet for the evocati cohort, legionary cohort and cohors I think it could be more historicaly. But thanks for read me and I always trust with the profesionality of the peolpe who make mods. You are the best.
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DGamer 2022년 5월 18일 오후 1시 39분 
Kagarino Kirie 님이 먼저 게시:
Herculianni and Jovianii are late units, they were no supposed to be in that era. But CA put them in so we reskinned them anyway. Legionaries and Evocati may have the old stuffs, but the praetorians as I have seen from many ref pictures, they all wear the latest and finest helmets, rich people don't use old helmets. Plus the legionaries and evocati already have segmentata.

@Kagarino, well they look fantastic! The current praetorians as well, I cant wait for an update, Thank you again.
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