Hearts of Iron IV

Hearts of Iron IV

Historical Immersion Event Pack
ahistoricities and suggestions
i wanted to post some initially observed flaws and my suggestions, tho feel free to add your own as well
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alright, just spectated the game from 1936 through 1942, and here are the things i saw a bit faulty

-china is actually way stronger than japan on land (though this was the case before the mod too, afaik), having more than double the amount of divisions japan has (from 1:2 to 1:4 and now in 1941 1:6). japan has of course muuuch stronger divisions, though they're simply outnumbered to a fatal extent, which led to china kicking japan out of manchuria and korea in 1940. the japanese did hold onto a marine invasion for some time, but it didnt even reach wuhan and eventually it was defeated by the chinese (after japan takes indochina in 1941, the chinese kick them out without much resistance due to at that point the almost nonexistent japanese army)

-free france doesnt spawn in central africa after france's defeat, only in french guyana and some pacific islands

-italy has no problems invading egypt, israel and transjordan all by its own

-italy occupies the "alpes", "provence" and "savoy" regions in vichy france after france capitulates, tho italy historically only occupied this region after the annexation of vichy france itself (including corsica)

-bulgaria occupies "thrace" and "central macedonia" after the breakup of greece, italy takes the rest (bulgaria should only occupy "thrace", germany "central macedonia", and italy the rest)

-britain ignores africa and rather prioritises norway, greece and sardinia (which in 1941 britain invades for some reason)

-germany cant reach even half of its historical peak in operation barbarossa in late 1941 / early 1942
now, this is a bit picky, but here some historical info you could include if you have time: (notice that if you decide to add this, rather do this after the new DLC comes out since it will rework the entire balkans)

-bulgaria joined the axis on 1st march, 1941

-bulgaria was never at war with germany's enemies, except for the US, which bulgaria
declared war on as a proof of "friendship" in the axis

-bulgaria only occupied the already conquered regions of yugoslavia and greece, she didnt actually fight for them

-bulgaria never "formally" turned fascist, though in 1943 the tzar Boris III was poisoned by hitler and a very pro-german regency took power, turning bulgaria into essentially a german puppet

-yugoslavia did join the axis for just one day, before witnessing a pro-british coup, which threw yugoslavia at war against the axis


this all being said, i wish you most of luck, for your mod is certainly one of the most important things hoi4 really misses: solid historical accuracy if wished for!
Last edited by vladimir the bot impaler; 13 Oct, 2020 @ 8:06am
CSRZ  [developer] 14 Oct, 2020 @ 2:19pm 
Thank you for your feedback.

Many of the problems you've mentioned are actually not the fault of the mod itself, but result from the vanilla game, as every new patch implements changes to the game mechanics. For example: I remember that Sino-Japanese war worked correctly in 1.7 ending in a long stalemate until 1944, but the new partisan mechanics completely nerfed Japan.

Many game mechanics are hardcoded and hard to overwrite with simple events - the Bulgarian AI is set to declare war on all enemies of Germany as soon as it joins the Axis and so on.

Free France was also broken with La Resistance and 1.9 patch. Their current mechanics depend heavily on decisions that cost political points - the AI is unable to use these. Good point though. It might be fixable with events that give the Free French AI provinces in Africa over time.

The mod will get new updates from time to time, so I promise to look on the stuff you've mentioned, but I can't promise that I will be able to fix everything immediately.
magistrat70 17 Oct, 2020 @ 2:44am 
@CSRZ apart from Macedonia, Cyprus and the Aegean islands were also under German occupation.

I really look forward to the implementation of Azad Hind for the Japanese.
magistrat70 17 Oct, 2020 @ 2:46am 
my old notes)

As for me, the strengthening for the USSR should be given already in the middle of 1943.

After the war, it would not be bad to remove the Italian national idea of ​​the fascists :) I hope the problem with the German puppets and the Reichskommissariat has also been resolved?

New collection of ideas :)))

1.After the end of the branch for Gaullists, the focus tree changes to the standard one, but for some reason it is reset to the original one. Maybe there is an opportunity to fix this with a mod?
2.Independent Egyptian state (form minor Egyptian flavor) as a puppet of the United Kingdom
3.German-Polish Non-Aggression Pact in place at game start
4.British oil companies in Iran and Iraq somewhat reflected by oil rights given to the UK in certain states when MTG is enabled
5.Maybe Hatay referendum (event) (DONE in DLC)))
6.Flavor and freedom dominion Irish Free State in 1937 (event)
7.Operation Valkyrie in summer 1944 (event stability)
8.Azad Hind and the Hindu SS Corps :)
magistrat70 17 Oct, 2020 @ 2:56am 
9.Special flavor for Yugoslav Partisans

*Egypt puppet Britain (ideology of neutrality Farouk portrait added) - British Suez Canal, similar to Panama Canal.
magistrat70 17 Oct, 2020 @ 2:57am 
! Dedicating an Egyptian puppet will add divisions to allies and greatly improve the defense of this region.
CSRZ  [developer] 17 Oct, 2020 @ 4:06am 
Just to note - I read through the comments and I make notes, so I didn't forget about these ideas. Just be wary that we have both the Italian DLC (with hopefully remade Greek and Egypt ideas you've mentioned) and the Soviet DLC (hopefully together with Finland/Polish focus trees) on the way later in the future.

I also don't want for my work to go to waste. Since I got my job I have a vary limited time to work on mods (I'm basically using my free time to do it). Half of the things I added for Yugoslavia had to be cut from the mod because of the newest DLC. That's why I'm not so quick in adding new feautures anymore.

AND the more flavor I add into the mod, the harder it is to update qucikly. That's also a point.

I of course thank you for your feedback. I promise to add some of it into the mod. It just might not be so fast.
magistrat70 19 Oct, 2020 @ 3:00am 
@CSRZ
Alternatively, it would be nice to reflect the League of Nations trade sanctions system. I think this can be done through decisions or events. Trade sanctions could be imposed (reduce trade power by -200) from Great Britain and France, USSR, Mexico, Switzerland, Commonwealth countries, Benelux countries and Scandinavia. It would not be bad to impose such sanctions on Manchukuo in the summer of 1937, Italy in January 1940, and also on Japan in January 1940, Bulgaria in the summer of 1940. Until the end of the war.
magistrat70 20 Oct, 2020 @ 10:51am 
@CSRZ
there are a couple of proposals for the Bosphorus. first. Turkish rebalance, I would slightly tweak the focuses for greater historicity and reduce the number of days to 35 in the historical thread. Are there any problems with the coup in Iraq. As far as I know, a focus on supporting the golden square has appeared in Turkey. for Bulgaria in the south, on the border with Thrace, it would be good to make a demilitarized zone, like the Rhine. historically, in 1938, these restrictions were removed from it, this could be formalized as an event or decision.
magistrat70 24 Oct, 2020 @ 12:38pm 
@CSRZ
I would like to offer versions of news events about the Quebec Conference, at which the plans of the United States and Great Britain were approved to open a second front in Europe and provide effective assistance to China. Also during the conference, a secret agreement was concluded on Anglo-American cooperation in the field of the atomic bomb, which kept the United States dominant in the development and production of nuclear weapons.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Quebec_Conference,_Canada,_August_1943_TR1347.jpg

You may also be interested in the events of the Tehran Conference, the San Francisco Conference on the signing of the UN Charter.
Last edited by magistrat70; 24 Oct, 2020 @ 12:39pm
CSRZ  [developer] 24 Oct, 2020 @ 12:40pm 
May be done in the future
magistrat70 24 Oct, 2020 @ 1:19pm 
:)
There is little problem with Ireland joining the war. This is not the case in history. Also, I would provide guarantees of independence for Yemen from Italy.
Gaming Grandpa 23 Nov, 2020 @ 12:00pm 
Thoughts on adding an event for the German Intelligence Agency have a coup in Hungary and make Ferenc Szalasi the leader (Operation: Panzerfaust)?
General CIS 3 Jul, 2021 @ 2:26pm 
RSI if Italy falls by Allies, Italian East Africa puppet, more reichkommissariat after USSR falls, some non historical stuff maybe like if axis wins Italy gets control of croatia puppet and annex dalmatia
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