Europa Universalis IV

Europa Universalis IV

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cam  [developer] 15 Jan, 2021 @ 7:44am
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Any ideas you have for the mod, I'm open to hearing them out! You can really suggest stuff anywhere (comments, discord, here) but stuff on here will be easy for me to access again down the road, at least compared to suggesting something in the comments section. (:
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potatogamer110 17 Mar, 2021 @ 12:10pm 
REPOST FROM THE COMMENTS:

Oh and for the countries, I can decode the names (barely :P) to give out hopefully correct translations of what you have called them on that map here:

Muksha Ulus: (Far away??? I could barely find instances of this word) People

Basharids: the word Başar means Victorious (as in the action of victory in a game of sports for example, without any time context)

Ulug Ulus: I think this means like, the top/main head of the turkic people? Ulu can loosely mean powerful

the Qara and Aq Qoyunlu guys are probably already known but just to clarify they mean Black and White Sheep respectively

I probably made some mistakes here but this is the best I can do

potatogamer110 9 minutes ago
side note; if Ninydad is Turkic it does not really sound Turkic to me, though I love the other Turkic names like Muksha Ulus and especially Balık Ulus as it basically means Fish People

second side note; I'm no expert with languages and their construction whatsoever but I speak fluent Turkish so there's that. I could send a steam friend request for more organized input.

potatogamer110 9 minutes ago
For changes in the culture that is Mishar currently:

Borisoglebsk could be Kurdomaniya, as the word Boris's origins could possibly mean Wolf, which the Turkish word for it is Kurt, and Gleb might have meant something related to god, so if they're Manichean, it would be replaced with Mani; and ye is sort of like the "ia" which goes to the end of names. If not Manichean, just put Tengri (Kurtengriya) as Tengri is literally what the god was called of their religion, as reflected by the modern turkish name for Lord in general Tanrı.

Riliz/Rilizk for Rylsk as a turkification of the name.

Vörneş, Turkification of Voronezh.


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This is definitely not 100% reliable, but I'm trying :p
cam  [developer] 17 Mar, 2021 @ 7:12pm 
Okay, so just to provide some background of the greater Turkic family tree and its relationship to the Seljuk->Ottoman->Turkish continuum, most of the languages and words spoken by Turkic people in-game outside of Southeastern Europe and Italy would be a lot different, mostly due to progressively less Iranian influence (especially in Tengri worshipping areas). Everyone except for the Bulgars would be speaking Common Turkic languages, making the languages similar to our Turkish (specifically part of the Oghuz sub-family alongside the Qashqai Turks in Unuor Ulus & the Yiva and Bayandur of the two Sheep). The Bulgars spoke an Ongur language, which besides vaguely influencing Hungarian (believed to provide them their English exonym, from On-Ongur-ian) only survives by the Chuvash language in modern day. So Bulgar names are bound to be weird.

However most of the Bulgar countries have older names from when they used to be "Tatarized Slavs", so names like Ninydad, Mascusids, Galimod, Syunaed, Bratishids, & Aybanuds are completely random, most of which don't have meanings (except for Basharids similarity to Victory). I'm totally fine with scrapping these names for better sounding country names.

Mukhsha Ulus, however, was an actual country, I just spelt their name wrong :p https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukhsha_Ulus
cam  [developer] 17 Mar, 2021 @ 7:20pm 
Also I really like the provinces names, sorry I totally spaced on replying to them. I can try and get a namelist for some more provinces if you'd like (and you think that'd make it a bit easier than squinting for names or having to snoop through the game, lol).

Some extra clarification: Ulug Ulus means "Great State" in the Tatar language spoken in the "Golden Horde" (ie Ulug Ulus). Also you might find it funny to know that Balik Ulus is actually being renamed to Balikoplis, having been influenced by neighboring Hellenes, being able to rename themselves to Balik Ulus if they get back to kingdom size. Though as far as I'm aware Balik is either Mongolian or Old Turkic for Fortress, I know there's pretty of weird funny ways that languages evolve so I'm not really surprised it means fish in Turkish, lmao. All the better to bring the mod to prime memedom.
cam  [developer] 19 Mar, 2021 @ 8:12am 
Upon doing some more research, I've found that pretty much every single Turkic language called fish "Balik", and I can't find an example of Balik meaning fortress in Mongolian. No idea where I got the idea it meant fortress. So I'm probably going to change it. WHOOPS :P
potatogamer110 17 Apr, 2021 @ 6:17am 
Ah, a list of names would be pretty cool for provinces. Sorry I forgot to check this... for like, a month. and yeah, at least for modern turkish Kale is often used, I don't know about TTL Turkic languages though. So yes, changing it could be good, if you still can't find a good source for the name Balık.

Another thing; thank you so much for providing this community with a great mod. I love it quite alot. I wish I could mod as great but don't really know anyone on my friend list to walk me through that's professional. So really, good job on putting so much clear effort into this.
potatogamer110 17 Apr, 2021 @ 6:19am 
As for the random local names, they could just be named after local dynasties; Although it would be very weird if the dynasty switched and they still kept their name, which could be slightly annoying for immersion. And yes, Başar means Victory
potatogamer110 23 Apr, 2021 @ 4:31am 
Another thing I came across while just panning around the map; Some nations, pretty much the Muslim ones, some use the Dynasty names. Which, while a good idea in general, I think it doesn't incorporate itself into EU4's country system properly as if the dynasty dies out and another one arises they keep that name. Or if they switch culture (somehow) or switch religions, then the old terms the Muslims and Arabs usually use won't be fitting for a Christian Iberia having the muslim naming system. So I'd recommend putting the names similar to the rest of the countries for universality.
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