Yesh!

WOW man, thanks

Thanks for this. I think looking at well made game maps is a great way to learn. It's annoying not being able to look at the BM maps in Hammer. Personally I find good lighting really hard.

Originally posted by JamaicanDave:

Thanks for this. I think looking at well made game maps is a great way to learn. It's annoying not being able to look at the BM maps in Hammer. Personally I find good lighting really hard.

You can decompile all maps from Black mesa and open them in hammer

A lot of decompiled maps don't work. They crash Hammer when you try and open them. I've given a bug to the developer of BSPSource to fix this, and he claims he has, but we're waiting on a newer version.

The problem seemed to be that BSPSource doesn't process the static meshes correctly. One of the things which causes the crash is if you have a lightmapped prop_static.

Information used for Bravado was gleaned from a handful of maps that did decompile, as well as parsing through broken VMFs with a text editor and playing with 'developer 2' in the console. This was vital for the Apache which, in its current form, relies on some mysterious spawnflags which aren't exposed to us.

Originally posted by Maki:

A lot of decompiled maps don't work. They crash Hammer when you try and open them. I've given a bug to the developer of BSPSource to fix this, and he claims he has, but we're waiting on a newer version.

The problem seemed to be that BSPSource doesn't process the static meshes correctly. One of the things which causes the crash is if you have a lightmapped prop_static.

Information used for Bravado was gleaned from a handful of maps that did decompile, as well as parsing through broken VMFs with a text editor and playing with 'developer 2' in the console. This was vital for the Apache which, in its current form, relies on some mysterious spawnflags which aren't exposed to us.

I thought lightmapped props aren't a problem to BSPsource anymore. Well looks like the two maps I decompiled were the randomly one of the few which doesn't have one.

I gather from BSPSource's author that he made some assumptions about the way static meshes worked based on CS:GO, which works in a different way from Black Mesa. Some maps do decompile correctly, such as the end of Black Mesa Inbound, the first level of Office Complex and the atrium in Questionable Ethics.

Never liked the idea of decompiling. Far better to have the original .vmf.

Originally posted by JamaicanDave:

Never liked the idea of decompiling. Far better to have the original .vmf.

can't deny that.

I agree that the original .vmf is always preferable, but since it doesn't seem to be coming anytime soon from Black Mesa, you've got to make do with what you can.

I've made it a point since Forest Train to release VMFs for my work, not just because they can be deconstructed for educational purposes, but as a method of future-proofing in case Valve (or Crowbar Collective, in this case) does something in the future that ends up breaking existing maps.

The actual vmf might be released as soon as the game is fully complete.

Originally posted by JamaicanDave:

Thanks for this. I think looking at well made game maps is a great way to learn. It's annoying not being able to look at the BM maps in Hammer. Personally I find good lighting really hard.

you can find all of the .vmf map files in the game files. i too tried to decompile the maps, but they wouldnt work. steam/steamapps/common/black mesa/bms/mapsrc/singleplayer all of the SP maps are in there. and if you want to know what map you want, load up the level in- game, and press ` and look in the top right corner. for example, the first level is c0a0a or whatever.

There is no download?

That download doesn't work anymore. I do have a copy of the VMF inside the VPK file of this release itself, which you can use GCFScape to open, but here's a link to the most recent one: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bwr9-qhDMPf0a012U2JQYXEyMGs