I think it should be : -25 HP To Thrower Soaked players become bleeding and damage dealt will be pure crits (Not mini-crits just crits) -25 Melee weapon Damage penalty Backstory: Sniper visited Merasmus and asked him to brew a potion for 25 of his max heath. Merasmus agreed with the offer and Gave sniper the potion

or better yet a new poison debuff that weakens enemys by 25%

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย DarkDragon487:

or better yet a new poison debuff that weakens enemys by 25%

thats just as the same as Mini-crits

On hit: Apply a cloud effect around coated players
+30% longer coat time (stays on for 30% longer)
Does not cause mini crits
Recharges after 30 seconds
Mad Milk, Jarate, water, and airblast removes effect (removed from both teams)

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Wolfgerlion:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย DarkDragon487:

or better yet a new poison debuff that weakens enemys by 25%

thats just as the same as Mini-crits

no what i mean is that the person under the effects of poison will deal out less damage not take more damage

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย minermovies23:

I think it should be : -25 HP To Thrower Soaked players become bleeding and damage dealt will be pure crits (Not mini-crits just crits) -25 Melee weapon Damage penalty Backstory: Sniper visited Merasmus and asked him to brew a potion for 25 of his max heath. Merasmus agreed with the offer and Gave sniper the potion

Nah, needs more Dungeons and Dragons references for the story, considering thats what it seems to be inspired by.

What if:

It was a throwable weapon, like jarate, that would deal a random amount of DOT (damage over time). it would generate a time for the effect, and the damage for the effect. maybe, to keep it balanced, it would always scale, so that if you had a long amount of time, it would deal low damage, or if you had a lot of damage, it would only last a short amount of time. ofcourse there would be a limit to how much time you can get, and how much damage you can deal. maybe it could even have less throwing range.

I thing we need more weapons for sniper if this reskin i'm so very sad about it...

OK! Stats is..
On Hit: Make a Player eyes Cover with black water for 8 sec (just like Jarate aka Jar of P i s s Sniper)
- Make Player Bleed for 9 sec (wow that so OP)
- Can't not use to putting out a fire

OP or Not? my Stats?

How about it just does damage

*Deals 20 damage
+Damage increases by 100% per person who's been hit(Example: so if there is a group of 5 people in a group and someone throws the Melf's magic potion at them it will do 70 damage per person)
-No random crits
-Can't be crit boosted
-No aftermath (No effect afterwards)

I'm guessing the stats would be kind of like all the throwable items combined.

Pros:
Target Is Jarated, Mad Milked, and Takes Bleeding Damage

Cons:
The Effects Wear Off Much Faster Than Most Throwable Items
-50% Regen Of Item (Takes A Long Time To Brew The Stuff, Ya Know? Can't Rush Art.)

Anyway, Just A Start. I Think These Would Be Cool Effects.

I think when a coated player is poisoned it's necessary to have a unique debuff effect in-game.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย minermovies23:

I think it should be : -25 HP To Thrower Soaked players become bleeding and damage dealt will be pure crits (Not mini-crits just crits) -25 Melee weapon Damage penalty Backstory: Sniper visited Merasmus and asked him to brew a potion for 25 of his max heath. Merasmus agreed with the offer and Gave sniper the potion

Oh god please never suggest anything ever again

We got a liquid for minicrits, we got one for health leech, this one could be either "target deals 35% less damage" or "target it 25% slower"

+Target is marked for death on hit for some time (and maybe do some DOT damage)

That's it. Like the jarate it's simple and the only downside is that you don't have the razorback, or the other secondaries.

I'm going to post this under both items' respective stat threads.

Bow:

fires two arrows per shot
25% slower charge rate
-50% max primary ammo on wearer (to simulate using two arrows at once)
-20% slower reload speed

Potion:

Enemies hit by the potion are slowed, otherwise functions identical to jarate or mad milk (puts out fire, Neon Annihilator crits, etc.)

They would pair well together, as a slowed enemy would be easier to take out with the slower bow or melee.

I'm surprised there hasn't been a poison debuff.