Majesty Gold HD

Majesty Gold HD

Better Heroes
Cybermaid 20 May, 2016 @ 5:45am
AI issue
It seems that the mod causes some issues in ai when picking a new activity?
Not sure of how it exactly goes wrong but after they completed a task they will fall into a long session of "Thinking" and not move unless a monster comes within agresssion range.

No ammount of different activities will stop this, and the shops are in the end completely empty because everyone is just standing idle, even a explore quests worth 20,000+ gold won't lure even a single ranger.

This causes massive pileups around service buildings, I tested them on multiple maps with just this mod active to exclude mod conflict.

Screenshot:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=687919019
Last edited by Cybermaid; 20 May, 2016 @ 5:47am
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amantalado 6 Jun, 2016 @ 12:21am 
That issue will occur on any Original Quest since the mod uses Hero Decision Trees from Northern Expansion. Whenever a Hero ends up reaching a point in their Decision Tree that attempts to call one of the Northern Expansion checks they will end up bugging out like this and end up locked in a non-decision. Looks like for your heroes, it was when the check for looking for a Magic Bazaar failed, and the code in the mod reflects that. Every hero in this mod ends up checking for a Magic Bazaar right after they finish their Marketplace check, so its no surprise that they've all frozen in place around the Marketplace.
Cybermaid 6 Jun, 2016 @ 2:18am 
Originally posted by amantalado:
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Interesting, and detailed. :o thanks for the info.
Any known fix? outside of bazaar construction?
amantalado 6 Jun, 2016 @ 3:14am 
Originally posted by Apples:
Originally posted by amantalado:
-snip!-
Interesting, and detailed. :o thanks for the info.
Any known fix? outside of bazaar construction?

Yeah, it can be fixed and still leave it compatible with Original and Expansion without too much trouble.

The problem was that the Thinking.bcd didn't include the missing functions in case players loaded a Majesty Original quest, so all it would take is replacing that file with one that has the function included.

I've made a version of that bytecode that you can copy and paste over the old one, though I recommend you copy and paste the folder where Better Heroes is located in to a local copy rather than the steam one as the steam version may just overwrite this one in what it'll assume is an older version of the code. You can find your Better Heroes folder at Steam\SteamApps\workshop\content\73230\646148149. Copy and paste the folder to Documents\My Games\MajestyHD\Mods\SDK to have a version of Better Heroes that you can play regardless of whether you have Steam on or not. Then download the
http://www.filedropper.com/thinking and paste it over the Thinking.bcd in the Data folder of the mod.
Cybermaid 6 Jun, 2016 @ 4:34am 
Originally posted by amantalado:
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I've tested the new version you've send and it worked like a charm, thank you kindly for this fix. c:
Palandus  [developer] 9 Jun, 2016 @ 6:11pm 
Sorry didn't respond sooner; steam hasn't been sending me notifications over the past few days for some reason. I had intended to upload a fix for this problem, as I had hoped my real life job-related issues would disappear after a couple weeks; they haven't and still swamped in work, and thus haven't had time to create a fix for this.

When I notice targets stuck in "thinking" loops, there are a few ways I found to kick them out.
1) Change of Heart works wonders.
2) Hit them with damage spells until nearly dead often causes them to panic and run, breaking the cycle. Lightning Bolt (Wizard Guild LV 2) works wonders.
3) Hit them with Petrification (Dauros LV 3) and afterwards they will go do something else.
4) Kill them and then Resurrect them.

When I do get a break from work, I'll be happy to upload a series of fixes for this mod and others. Its been a while since I've been able to mod MajestyHD, and would love to get back to it.
amantalado 10 Jun, 2016 @ 2:42am 
>Bone
I think I still have the .gpl code I used for the fix. If not I can whip up the fix in a minute or two since its a pretty simple one. I can post it here for you to add it to your mod and save you some time troubleshooting it. I'll have to wait until I can access my computer, phones are not very good for typing long lists of code with.
Originally posted by Bone:
1) Change of Heart works wonders.
i thought it was established that this issue happened in southern quests, because northern expansion assets weren't available?
Palandus  [developer] 20 Jul, 2016 @ 9:26pm 
The game crashes if you try to play southern quests as they lack specific code that is only present in Expansion files, so I doubt you'd encounter it in southern quests as the game would crash instantly before it could be a problem.

I'd be happy if you could provide that amantaldo; sorry for late reply, real life has been hectic lately.
SolarScavenger 12 Sep, 2016 @ 7:47pm 
I look forward to life being kind to you Bone and giving you some leisure time. Your mod is rather fun to use and truly does solve some shortcomings in Majesty. If you would, after you resolve the "?" dilemma of course, I do miss using the gnomes. Nine hovels is a bit much. I would be just fine with one hovel that holds six gnomes. Thank you for all the time this has had to have taken you.
Shadowverve 22 Jan, 2017 @ 12:20am 
Originally posted by amantalado:
Originally posted by Apples:
Interesting, and detailed. :o thanks for the info.
Any known fix? outside of bazaar construction?

Yeah, it can be fixed and still leave it compatible with Original and Expansion without too much trouble.

The problem was that the Thinking.bcd didn't include the missing functions in case players loaded a Majesty Original quest, so all it would take is replacing that file with one that has the function included.

I've made a version of that bytecode that you can copy and paste over the old one, though I recommend you copy and paste the folder where Better Heroes is located in to a local copy rather than the steam one as the steam version may just overwrite this one in what it'll assume is an older version of the code. You can find your Better Heroes folder at Steam\SteamApps\workshop\content\73230\646148149. Copy and paste the folder to Documents\My Games\MajestyHD\Mods\SDK to have a version of Better Heroes that you can play regardless of whether you have Steam on or not. Then download the
http://www.filedropper.com/thinking and paste it over the Thinking.bcd in the Data folder of the mod.
I was unable to get the Fixed Thinking, did you remove it?
dmolnar 15 Feb, 2018 @ 6:33am 
Originally posted by amantalado:
Originally posted by Apples:
Interesting, and detailed. :o thanks for the info.
Any known fix? outside of bazaar construction?

Yeah, it can be fixed and still leave it compatible with Original and Expansion without too much trouble.

The problem was that the Thinking.bcd didn't include the missing functions in case players loaded a Majesty Original quest, so all it would take is replacing that file with one that has the function included.

I've made a version of that bytecode that you can copy and paste over the old one, though I recommend you copy and paste the folder where Better Heroes is located in to a local copy rather than the steam one as the steam version may just overwrite this one in what it'll assume is an older version of the code. You can find your Better Heroes folder at Steam\SteamApps\workshop\content\73230\646148149. Copy and paste the folder to Documents\My Games\MajestyHD\Mods\SDK to have a version of Better Heroes that you can play regardless of whether you have Steam on or not. Then download the
http://www.filedropper.com/thinking and paste it over the Thinking.bcd in the Data folder of the mod.

Hello
It seems not to be there anymore. Can you re-upload it/share it somewhere again? I recently re-updated my computer and I forgot that this file was not part of the original release :P
amantalado 19 Feb, 2018 @ 12:59am 
Originally posted by dmolnar:
Hello
It seems not to be there anymore. Can you re-upload it/share it somewhere again? I recently re-updated my computer and I forgot that this file was not part of the original release :P
Sure, you can find it here.[www.filedropper.com] Just follow the same instructions as I listed before on where to put the file for it to take effect.
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