Originally posted by sqwid:

Originally posted by A Spy!:

I've got an idea for rebalancing the ridiculous overheal potential of the Boston Bulldog.

Damage vulnerability while overhealed.

This way, Scouts have a much harder time maintaining that overheal in the first place, making them easier to take out, even while they have stupid crazy overheal. One Scout that killed me had 223 HP. That ain't right without some other nerf.

A damage vulnerability defeats the purpose of the overheal though.

The max overheal just needs to be smaller, that's pretty much it.

I honestly don't think the problem is the overheal itself actually. The problem is how easy it is to get it in the first place. 200 HP on a scout is not actually inherently bad, the problem is that there is not a good enough punishment for that overheal. If not a damage vulnerability, how about the Boston Bulldog either:

A: Only has life steal on what CHData codes as a Big Hit, so a Scout has to get consistent, juicy meatshots, along with a fire rate penalty as opposed to clip size penalty to combat spam meatshots

B: Has a damage penalty while overhealed to slow HP gain. How's 25% sound?

Originally posted by AwesomeGuyDj:

Originally posted by A Spy!:

Replace Heavy with any visible enemy, and you get the idea.

but especially heavy. hes slow easy to hit and hard for him to track a good scout

I've got an idea for rebalancing the ridiculous overheal potential of the Boston Bulldog.

Damage vulnerability while overhealed.

This way, Scouts have a much harder time maintaining that overheal in the first place, making them easier to take out, even while they have stupid crazy overheal. One Scout that killed me had 223 HP. That ain't right without some other nerf.

Originally posted by AwesomeGuyDj:

Originally posted by A Spy!:

There REALLY needs to be something done about Boston Bulldog Scouts with the Merc's Supplies/Survival Gear. I can accept one or the other, but with both, the Scout just plain regens too much health to really be fair..

Most of the time a scout with the bulldog will wreck a heavy. Dodging plus easy hits for hp?

Replace Heavy with any visible enemy, and you get the idea.

There REALLY needs to be something done about Boston Bulldog Scouts with the Merc's Supplies/Survival Gear. I can accept one or the other, but with both, the Scout just plain regens too much health to really be fair..

Some stuff for some classes. Hopefully this gets as well received as my last set.

Engineer

Wrench

The Gearworker's Generator

While the Eureka Effect uses electricity for that fancy schmancy teleport, this does something for more pragmatic.

+1 Metal regenerated per second
+Buildings self-upgrade at 2 Metal per second
-50 less metal carrying capacity
-40% slower upgrade speed. (15 Metal upgraded instead of 25)

Model: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=159764237&searchtext=

Soldier

Secondary

The Belligerent's Bullhorn

We are never giving Soldier a microphone again...

Takes 450 Damage to charge
On use: Gives you and the teammates around you a speed boost, slows enemies around you by 15%, and deals 4 damage per second to enemies in the buff's radius

Model: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=74788313&searchtext=

Pyro

Melee

The Concrete Killer

There's fire axes, there's sledgehammers, and now there's a giant block of concrete on the end of a small pole.

+50% damage bonus on targets above 90% HP
+Damage deals knockback, which DOES register as an Airblast for the purposes of the Reserve Shooter
-25% swing speed penalty
-On Miss: Slow yourself for one second, you REDACTED TO PROTECT PYRO'S IDENTITY
-Minicrits whenever it would normally crit

Model: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=412616900&searchtext=

Follow up on the Wrench vs. PDA split Loreknight suggested.

The Fixer's Firewall

Brick and mortar is dead. Force fields are the wave of the future!

Replaces your sentry with a shield generator. Shield generators project an MvM Medic Shield that deals no damage in the direction of the nearest enemy. (Uses Sentry targeting to discern this. Shield does not target vertically.) Additional levels increase the size of the shield projected, and, at level three, it occasionally fires Short Circuit ALT-FIRE bolts in the direction it faces as well as the level three size shield. Costs 100 metal to build. Shield starts out at 50% size of a regular shield, then 75%, then full size. Has 1.5x the health of a regular sentry, but the damage the shield resists is applied to the shield generator. Once the generator reaches half HP, it is disabled until it gains 3/4 HP, or for 5 seconds, whichever is longer. Shield Generators have a natural HP regen of 30, 38, and 45.
-Shield Generator has a Wrangler penalty to healing when above 1/4 HP

I went with a slightly different idea of how to work the shield Loreknight. Sorry for you putting forth the effort.

Model: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=5515&searchtext=

Engie PDA

The Big Red Button

For emergencies only.

+On Building Self Destruction: Fires a homing stock rocket that seeks out the nearest target. Will not target cloaked or disguised spies. Fires directly upward. Reflecting these rockets shatters the rockets.
+Can destroy buildings while being sapped
-Destruction rockets do less damage the less health your building has, from 100% to 25% damage compared to stock Soldier launcher
-15 building max HP penalty
-Buildings deconstruct at twice the speed

Model: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=142348877&searchtext=

Some stuff for Demoman

Secondary

The Unstable Exploder

I would not advise trying to touch these...

+Bombs explode whenever they are moved or destroyed with a 25% damage bonus
-.5 second delay when detonating stickybombs

Model: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2340&searchtext=

Secondary

The Ingenious Imploder

These sticky bombs suck. A lot.

+Bombs instantly arm
+No self damage
+/-Bombs instead suck people into the center of the explosion.
-7 less bombs out
-After detonating Stickybombs: ALT-FIRE is disabled for 2 seconds.

Model: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=81473373&searchtext=

Melee

The Booming Boozer

Drink your cares away as the world explodes around you.

+Killing people charges a Belch meter. After killing 4 people, your next successful melee hit will reward you with... explosive... results. (Pre-Nerf Caber with no self damage. Plays a drunken Demoman voice clip on hit.)
+Taunting with a full Belch meter will cause you to Pre-Nerf Caber explode at the end of the taunt with a 200% blast radius and no self damage. Leaves behind a lingering cloud of smoke.
-On kill with any weapon: You take a quick swig of booze and become drunk for 1 second

Contrary to what the model suggests, you can do this repeatedly, despite it being a Caber reskin.

Model: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=14579&searchtext=

Suggestions?

A pair of self reposts that no one touched. Might be interesting, might not. Recent posts reminded me of them, and no one really engaged these.

Heavy

Primary

The Tiny T-64

Yes. Heavy is so badass he'll take a small, unmanned tank, weld a handle to it, and fire it at people.

+Fires rockets instead of bullets.
+100% accurate
+/-90% self push force reduction
-50% damage penalty
-50% slower fire speed
-50% less ammo

Damage penalty is relative to a stock rocket launcher. Fire speed and Ammo are relative to a minigun.

Model: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=512878243&searchtext=

Scout

Melee

The Bat-n-Chain

Far from holding you back, it gets you to new places!

+While your melee is active, you can press ALT-FIRE to fire a grappling hook. 10 second cooldown. (You can switch weapons while grappling, but attacking cancels the grapple.)
+While grappling, you gain minicrits during and for 3 seconds afterward.
+15% damage bonus
-You are marked for death while grappling and for 3 seconds afterward
-Grappling hook does not damage players, although it does appear on the person's screen that they are grappled, and you can grapple onto people.
-40% swing speed penalty

Model: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=430963219&searchtext=

Suggestions?

Some stuff for some classes. Let's remember what this thread is for.

Demoman

Melee

The Ethereal Enervator

Its blade may be broken, but not its spirit.

Has sword mechanics
+Deals more damage the less health you have. (25% damage penalty at full HP, 25% bonus damage at 1 HP)
+Killing players with your melee will give you heads. The more heads you have, the more overkill damage you will restore as health. That melee kill gives the overkill heal the head earned, so getting your first head will give you 35% overkill restoration.
1 Head: 35% overkill damage is restored as health.
2 Heads: 70% overkill damage is restored as health.
3 Heads: 100% overkill damage is restored as health.
4 Heads: 140% overkill damage is restored as health.
-Non-melee damage has overkill restoration values cut in half.
-Cannot overheal with overkill restoration

Model: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=31&searchtext=

Heavy

Primary

The Sacrificial Spinigun

Give to the gods the blood of your enemies while they CRY SOME MOOR!

+Direct damage charges a Sacrifice meter (300 damage to charge). Pressing Special Attack will reduce your damage by 20%, but reduce the fire rate penalty to 10%, give your bullets the ability to cause bleed for 3 seconds with bleed damage healing you. This lasts 15 seconds, and Sacrifice cannot be charged while active.
+25% damage resistance while spun up
+While spun up: Headshot damage is capped at 299 damage.
-35% fire rate penalty

Model: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=805971499&searchtext=

Sniper

Primary

The Eye in the Sky

Sniper sees you, and so does everyone else too.

+Enemies in your crosshairs are revealed for all to see for 2 seconds after taking the crosshairs off
+On hit: Enemy is revealed for allies to see, length depending on charge, from 3 to 8 seconds
+Headshots DOUBLE reveal time
+25% faster charge rate
-Headshots only minicrit
-10% less damage on bodyshot

Model: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=143688595&searchtext=

Suggestions?