Services are not allowed because even if someone makes a legitimate one, somebody out there will create one with the intention to scam another person. The process to report people who scam would take too much time and effort to sort out, including the guidelines of the service, what the person was making/doing for the service and what the customer was paying. This just leads to too many places for different stories about what happened in a dispute without extensive snapshoot proof.

If no real conclusion about who was scamming who in that situation could be made, then these forums would be flooded by people yelling "HE SCAMMED ME HE SCAMMED ME" by more people than we already do and nothing could or would be done about it

It's just better in every way to disallow anything that isn't a direct trade to avoid the entire situation.

I second the previous notion and confirm the diagnoses.

Originally posted by Xile{t}:

What Currier Bell said :) You can probably get away with posting it on SPUF though.

Always depends on the mod. Posted my idea there a while back but it was closed within a day. I decided to ask some mods and all agreed with me that it ain´t a rule violation except the guy that closed it because "you cannot promote yourself like that here".

All 3 of you would report this even if I can show rep for exactly this service?

Most people would, services are not allowed, and never have been. Rule #5 of TF2outpost is simple: "No trades that are not trades".

I have never seen any mod agree that a service is not a rule violation, and you've already had a trade closed because of it, take that as a definite sign that it is not allowed.

Originally posted by Xile{t}:

I wouldn't report it but I wouldn't recommend anyone took you up on it :/ what rep do you have out of curiosity?

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Originally posted by Currier Bell:

Most people would, services are not allowed, and never have been. Rule #5 of TF2outpost is simple: "No trades that are not trades".

I have never seen any mod agree that a service is not a rule violation, and you've already had a trade closed because of it, take that as a definite sign that it is not allowed.

Well yea. I probably won´t try it again anytime soon.
From what you´ve said I can tell that you´re one that is against it but your only argument is that it would require too much effort and time to sort out who´s scamming, right?

It´s true that some services e.g. mine require trust-trades but that´s also the case everytime you´re having cash transactions in exchange for items. I don´t think it´s too hard to judge if the person you´re dealing with is a scammer when you consider certain factors which are obvious when you have common sense.

Also there are other kinds of services where it´s impossible for one to scam other people for example a F2P metal exchange. So what is wrong with offering these and also with mine if I can prove I´m not scamming anyone?

And why is it allowed on bazaar but not on outpost?

Originally posted by $@GA【表面張力】:

And why is it allowed on bazaar but not on outpost?

Because the two websites have very different ethos; bazaar is much more 'hands off' when it comes to trolling, price fixing etc, but is much harder on quicksells.

Originally posted by Zemnmez:

Originally posted by $@GA【表面張力】:

And why is it allowed on bazaar but not on outpost?

Because the two websites have very different ethos; bazaar is much more 'hands off' when it comes to trolling, price fixing etc, but is much harder on quicksells.

You forgot less popular.

On the topic of this thread, tf2 outpost is strictly trades only. We have thousands and thousands of trades and if someone clicks on your trade thinking that you're selling something, they might feel mislead, as they might not want to endeavour your service.

As I said it also stated that I´m buying tickets so it had a trade purpose.

Im going to guess brokering services aren't allowed

Brokering is just asking for trouble imho. i think a good rule is, dont make trades with items that arent yours. Brokering services could be used to liquidate scammers, or circumvent a tf2op ban.

I agree, Brokering= Not legit activities/ scam.

Originally posted by SkyFallᴷᶰᶦᶠᵉ ᵧₒᵤBuyingQuicksell:

I agree, Brokering= Not legit activities/ scam.

Though it might not be a scam, whatever comes of it still needs to be dealt with my the admins, allowing this opens up whole new scams.

Brokering was actually not the kind of service I wanted to talk about because I see why this can cause problems.

Are there more arguments against offering a service like I did?

Originally posted by t3 Not_Turtle:

tf2 outpost is strictly trades only.

I think that says it all.

Your service might be appreciated by some, but not the majority of OP users. Take your service offer somewhere else and don't misuse OP trades to advertise it because you can find a large user base here.

I consider your trade to be similar to e-mail SPAM.

Originally posted by Uranium235:

Originally posted by t3 Not_Turtle:

tf2 outpost is strictly trades only.

I think that says it all.

Your service might be appreciated by some, but not the majority of OP users. Take your service offer somewhere else and don't misuse OP trades to advertise it because you can find a large user base here.

I consider your trade to be similar to e-mail SPAM.

I´m sorry you consider my trade to be spam. However it´s very obvious that it also had a trade purpose so just think of the services as a little extra feature. Maybe you don´t feel so negative if you view it from this perspective :3

Ah yea, I understand that you could see a violation if outpost in its current state is "trades only".
What I wanted to know is how other users would think if they could update it. We´d still live in medieval times if we never consider changing things for something better.

If outpost would allow new features for example this kinda services or auctions or whatever, don´t ya think that they could attract even more people and accomplish more?