Do i need to give you a hug?

Bare in mind this was uploaded a LONG time ago my friend ... the game has changed significantly ... wasn't always the case it was useless because you will find this ship made use of the "straw" cargo exploit that xisted which meant it had a ridiculous cargo hold for a ship of it's size and price.

The idea of it was to be a very very cheap starter ship.

Like i said - this is back from when the game was quite different.

/hugs

A 1-slot ship is as useless as a 5th wheel on a wagon.....

What I will do is make a MKII version but I will take an unreleased version where I already got rid of the "rods" and replace it with a block made of frame so that it is both light, easy to find and easy to transfer to whatever module you prefer.

Thank you again Brujo

I really dunno what to say ... the idea my ship has hit reddit is pretty humbling.

The cargo issue is very difficult to overcome due to a major change that happened after the ship was made.

The simple solution is to scale the ship to whatever you can afford and then the 2 intakes on either side you can simply remove the armor layer and you will find the cargo easily accessible and modifiable. For the center one it sits at the front of the ship and again it just a case of removing the armor layer to get access.

basically ships were all designed on a 0.5 scale at that time but when cargo was changed it was made that a MINIMUM cargo hold must be 1x1x1 and thus ships like mine "broke" and what once had cargo had 0.

Thank you for the kind words though and I am really thrilled to see someone had the game made better for them because it was always the intention, something cheap, fun and easy to fly that was scalable.

I ended up using it as a combo miner, fighter ship with great success in the starting sector killing pirates and mining juicy asteroids. When the time comes to upgrade I will miss it so much. If the author can make a Mk2 version of this ship removing the useless rods inside of broken cargo space it will lighten up the ship considerably, and I did it to hollow the ship a bit to compensate somewhat for the blocky cargo space I added to the bottom. It handles extremely well compared to other "starter" ships in the workshop and I destroy iron/titanium based zone pirates super easily. Get this ship over any other "starter" one, it is the best! 8) LOVE IT SO MUCH!

I got this ship off a recommendation on reddit. I must say after 4 hours being utterly lost on the game without any proper way to move around (my ship building skills are sub par) I went into the net for help and saw this ship being mentioned. Downloaded it, turned my abomination brick lump of inertia into this sleek amazing ship and now I am enjoying the game so much! This should be the starting ship model you get upon creating a new universe. It has everything , except cargo, but that can be fixed easily by adding a small container to the bottom and you can get about 30-40 units of cargo without damaging much the overall design in terms of speed/nertia.

Yea.

I have done some serious investigating on this and the sad news is - I cannot fix it.

The point of these ships were that they were SMALL so they based on a .5 ratio not the flat 1:1 and it looks like the devs have opted to cater for 1.0 and above for cargo.

A single 1:1 block gives 0.4 cargo space so it is now very clear to me why the cargo on this ship is broken.

Now I could simply scale up to 2x but it actually breaks all the power gen on the ship and I'd argue if im scaling that high I may aswell rework the unreleased Nostromo design I was saving till 1.0

I have not forgot this ship, far from it it has been HUGELY popular but it seems the intended "scale" of the game as considerably larger than the base scaling of this little run around.

A sad day.

Cargo capacity is 0: Description states the ship has >0

I understand 100% Ball but it kind of goes against the reason for the refurbs ... no problems with u guys doin whatever u want after i design the final results but I don't really want to go down the rabbit hole of trying to fix what is not broken.

What im thinkin though is actually skipping the 2 slot because the Grifter is so ludicrously space efficient the size difference is makin me wonder if its worth doing the 2 slot.

Regardless work has commenced and I will have a stab with the 2 slot before I decide whether to just skip and move to the 3.

I do think the Hellion is a nicer looking ship though and that the 2 slot will feel like a downgrade from the Grifter.

Watch this space.

Yes when i doubled the size i ran into some power issues, just added some gens

Thank you for all the comments and props.

Again none of this would be possible without the creative mind of Derp and I am thrilled the collabaration has been this successful.

I am pleased to say in-light of every AAA title I was looking forward to now having been refunded and beyond Warframe not having alot to play - the Avorion update today has summoned me back and I will be makin a start in the long overdue overhauls for the ships in the series.

Startin with 2 slot and 3 slot shortly after.

@azhockeynut I have never forgot your request I just haven't really been around on Avorion and beyond that I don't want to scale the ship too much as this has adverse effects but now that I will be active again I will most definitely see what can be done here for you. Even if it means offering you a 1-off modified version of the ship privately.

Just wanted to say thankyou for this absolutley lovely ship. Great looking, handles well and good all rounder. I made this to replace my iron ship when i got to titanium and after some time ive scaled up x2, still going strong. Brand new to builders and this helped me to learn by looking under the hood ;)

i actually figured out how to make the ship larger. start wit just the base block, then copy this ship to clipboard and CRTL V, then you use the w a s d keys to make it larger.

would be really dope for this to be Scaled way up to say 750k m3 or higher. i for the life of me cant find the starting block so i cant scale this myself.

@Obiwan the strip is that stripe down the center from the bridge forward and above the bridge

I can't figure out how to upgrade parts of it so I have to transform the whole thing each time entirely. I doubt that is the intention or the best use of materials either.
plus it seems to handle ery differently when i do that lol

@Reckless haha fantastic. I love the xanion glow too! I am thrilled to see people have realised the almost modular nature of the ships internals and upgraded it rather than replacing it ... it was always my intent when I designed her and it's awesome to see people intuitively do exactly what you would hoped they would without ever having mentioned it.

@ Azhockey I understand now, you like the top part, when you say "strip" do you mean the sort of "fin" at the top that is a stripe going from the back up to the bridge? or do you mean the overall surface area of the top of the ship beneath the strip and the bridge?

I did simply had to add blocks, I have no idea how to edit these beautiful creations other people make. zero artistic talent. What I was saying is while playing I got some cannons/guns which were too wide to be placed on that center stripe. I like some of my guns located there. as for making it bigger all I can figure to do is modify entire ship and scale X bigger. makes them look terrible when I do that, so I assume I am screwing it all up badly.
is there a decent tutorial somewhere I can watch. tired of making nice ships look like boxes I am.

I just changed the engines and generators to xanion, and i used one speed bipass chip, all the ship rescaled by 3x.... look at the speed.....
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/882002045376132341/BB88ED1BC0E93D9CA26169CA1B74E65BEA98BF57/

Don't you worry about it Deimos your intentions were spot on.

Apologies Obiwan. Would be nice if people would contact the author for permission and credit their works clearly as you do.

@azhockeynut

That was the exact idea.

The Framework areas and compartmentalisation (sp?) of the internal systems was deliberately done so that you could do that by simply swapping out block types and upgrading materials.

Do you mind showing me how/where you made it wider on top so I can better understand what you were talking about.

I thought you meant the nose so I am clearly misunderstanding and would love to see your changes.

Thank you for letting me know Demios, I left a msg with him but given the length of time I spent working on this thing It would be nice if you could get the name right.

I am Obiwan not Derp.

Regardless though I give 100% credit everywhere on all my posts. The ship itself was based off my first refit of a hull that Derp never released for public consumption.

But unlike Gordan23 I approached Derp and spoke at length about my intentions and what I wanted to do.

Derp is WELL aware I consider his works the best in the workshop and that I have huge admiration and respect for what he does.

Seems this little ship is a favourite for people posting up as their own work without any acknowledgements. Look up "Trinium Eagle".

I did not! THANKS!!!! I always use this one. Once I got to nano I added some shields and made it a bit wider on top to add some new guns but dang this is a heck of a ship! mad props

@Azhockeynut

Did you not see the Iron version my friend?

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1089223632

As for the other requests I will see what I can do :)

My absolute favorite! would love an Iron only version for a starter ship, a Titanium only one too for that upgrade, then on to Nanonite. The top near the front if it were a hair wider, some of the double,triple, and quad guns could mount there. I would love to see a slightly longer 3 slot version. When I tried to make it larger it got blockly and ugly.
Solid ship mate

that was the idea that the spacing would allow for very easy refit within the spaces and very simple material upgrading.

Thrilled to hear its worked for that long honestly.

Thank you!

Excellent design. I'm still using this design mid game, albeit upgraded with shield emitters and additional power. Great work.

also... liked and faved! :)