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Midnight Aristocracy is what Vlad's text often refers to in loading screens and during quests. It is the name of the 'greater vampire empire'.

Immortalz should be what you swap the bloody sunz for, you should swap the overall greenskins to the Green Tide or the "Da Green Tyde" something like that.

Bad Moon Boyz? Fists of Gork & Mork?

I'm trying think of a better alternative to Great Waagh. I changed it to that but it didn't seem as popular as Immortalz, plus with the Waagh mechanic it's a little weird. Cuz you got "Da Great Waaagh Waaagh" which is odd. I'm thinking something about the Bad Moon or Gork and Mork into the name. That's sort of a united front. The greenskins just don't unite a lot. Same with undead.

*Not a fan

I'm a fan of that name. I need a lore book because other than the one mod someone made I have never seen "Midnight Aristocracy" used also it doesn't feel like it's a faction name but an organization inside the faction. it'd be like calling the Empire "The Elector Counts"

Should swatch "Empire of the Dead" to Midnight Aristocracy.

Did you consider changing Da Immortalz to The Great Waagh? When confederrating as minor faction or Azhag Red Eye's (crynsos) Immortalz doesn't really fit since they're Grimgor unique legion.

Thank you, you beautiful person!

done

I hope it's done soon-ish. :P

Grr. I got to fix it.

So I just saw that the Norscans (when they confederate) aren't actually called "Ruinous Vanguard", they're still called "Champions of the Gods".

Both work, though in lore it is usually called the Empire of Man. Marienburg and the northern provinces aren't probably too happy being called part of the Empire of Sigmar, though, since they have their own gods they hold higher.

@[RoC] Tactical Turtleneck

Well, afaik the only human empire called as The Empire (of Man) is only this one empire, Cathay will be refered as Cathay, so to me (and so far source material i have here) the name "The Empire of Man" already distinguished it to other human empire.

and lot of others nation refer to the empire as such also, when people of warhammer said "The Empire" it pretty much surely refer to a specific empire, thus i dare to say it kind of official name of it, although i remember somewhere in the old books of mine there is alternative name (but forgot the exact phrase)

Yeah personally I prefer Empire of Sigmar. Lol

It's kind of both to be honest. Empire of Man from their perspective might be correct, lofty asperations and what not. Kind of like how Vampires like to think themselves the true empire but... they're not really.

@Einfahrt Freihalten
Was it really? I thought "Empire of Sigmar" kind of distinguished it from otherr human empires like Cathay.

I'm probably going to change it back. I wish I could compartmentalize it like my recolor mods.

this is a very good flavour mod i have so far, give a sense of something on confederation, and make faction more unique in a sense it have proper name (no longer generic racial name).

but i still preferyo ur previous mod on the empire, with the name of empire of man instead of empire of sigmar, because in the lore empire of man / the empire was actually (kinda) the official name of it.
if i may ask, how can i change the sigmar back to man? since im very inexperienced with modding ._.

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@Suspense
Also, when is the rename of a Norsca confederation to Ruinous Vanguard going to happen, if you don't mind me asking?

@Git Gud (Swerto)
Why not Midnight Aristocracy instead?

Should probably not name it Empire of Nagash since Nagash isn't in this, save that for Total Warhammer 2's grand campaign when Tomb Kings are added.

My vote is Vampire Lords or something like that.

@Suspense
Yeah, it's kinda weird having two "Champions of the Gods" with both Wulfric and Throgg so I'm thinking of using just your renaming mod as opposed to rename + confederation names. I still like this though, and plan to use it in my current playthrough. :)

I can probably seperate them out. I have been thinking about it.

By the way, is there a version of this mod that just does faction renames and not confederation names?

But at least you've got a name now for a Norsca confederation, the Vanguard of Ruin! Or Ruinous Vanguard, depending upon which you decide.

It would've been great, man. It would've been great. ;(

Found the rule. I'm sad now. At least I can show you what it would have looked like: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1113103133

Really? Is that a rule?

Lol, pretty sure you'd get hit by the banhammer for that, since CA doesn't allow any other properties but Warhammer to be mods specifically due to GW's meddling. Even renaming would probably get you in trouble.

True. the "of" tends to do that.... or I can just call them wildlings... :P

I kind of want to make a joke mod that renames and recolors them all to Game of Thrones stuff. That'd be funny.

Of course you could also have it "Vanguard of Ruin" in case "Ruinous Vanguard" doesn't sound enough like a confederation.

Ruinous Vanguard sounds pretty sweet, I must say. And yeah, I was thinking that referring to Chaos by name wasn't such a good idea.

Ruinous Vanguard? Usually they don't outright refer to Chaos as chaos. I like the way they call Chaos "Ruinous Power" or "Ruinous Forces"

Indeed. What about "Vanguard of Chaos"? As they're one of the main forces that precedes Archaon's Host, and it still makes them sound cool without appearing to be mere lackeys.

which is the issue because in the tabletop they ARE part of Chaos's army. CA made them a separate race which is cool.

A couple names I thought of for a confederated Norsca are "Chosen of the Gods" and "Bringers of Ruin". Then again they almost sound more like titles for Archaon's host...

oh... currently I got Champions of the Gods not Norse Champions... huh. Missed that... still might change it to World Walkers

True, true. I meant more specifically in regards to a name that makes sense if either Wulfric or Throgg are the ones to unite Norsca, not having seperate names for different factions doing the confederation.

If I knew how to write scripts better and coding I could probably figure it out.

Or else I'd do separate ones for Mousillon, Carcassonne, Crooked Moon, etc.

Both sort of but Throgg is already odd ball. Unfortunately I don't know how to make separate confederate names for different factions within a confederation group

I'll try to think of/find some names and come back if anything sounds worthwhile.
Would you need a name that is fitting for either Wulfric OR Throgg if they were to unite Norsca, or just for Wulfric?

Others get too long like "Follower of the Ruinous Powers" or something.

Yeah... World Walkers would be better... hmm. It's reference to just Wulfric himself but... meh. Screw it. There's a serious lack of lore for Norsca anyways. Even CA had to invent stuff for them.

I'm open to other suggestions though. I'm not really fond of it either but it was better than what I had before... which was nothing.

Fair enough. Although I'll admit that "World Walkers" sounded pretty cool. Lol

Well, that was the only reference I found to a united Norsca. The only other time they united was when they were part of the Chaos army. So it's a bit weird.