Sid Meier's Civilization VI

Sid Meier's Civilization VI

BB Indian City State Pack
87 σχόλια
Entarogan 30 Σεπ 2017, 22:16 
@-Dl- Blkbutterfly looking forward to your new work.
blkbutterfly  [Δημιουργός] 30 Σεπ 2017, 20:50 
@Entarogan Thx.

The problem is one of the CS Anuradhapura is the capital of Sri Lanka led by Dutugamunu, a civ/mod I'm developing (port of Civ V version).
Entarogan 30 Σεπ 2017, 20:41 
@-Dl- Blkbutterfly maybe you can avoid name repetition instead of change other's name. But maybe it is not a significant problem. BTW nice work of your mod.
blkbutterfly  [Δημιουργός] 30 Σεπ 2017, 20:33 
@Entarogan I didn't copy any artwork or code. The Sri Lankan CS have been renamed. That's all :steamfacepalm:
Entarogan 30 Σεπ 2017, 20:28 
Though I don't know what actually happened I argue for more discussion and communication before a mod is made.
Entarogan 30 Σεπ 2017, 20:19 
In my opinion I think it is OK if one did't copy other's artwork and code.
And I suggest that you join our "the Great Asia" project and locate those city states on the Asia map
blkbutterfly  [Δημιουργός] 18 Σεπ 2017, 4:23 
@RFormica Ok. One last time.

Suppose it's the Cherokee.

The rights to the names of Cherokee cities (and use of a likeness to their leader) belong to the Cherokee people. So if @thecrazyscotsman develops a mod TCS Cherokee City States he's misappropriating their culture.

As Steam doesn't charge for mods, his IP has zero $ value.

Collective IP is legally recognised in the US for indigenous peoples in some cases. Also in Australia. IDK details TBH.

So a Cherokee wouldn't need his permission to develop a mod of Cherokee if he wished. In fact by using Cherokee city names @thecrazyscotsman actually gives the right to a Cherokee to modify/patch his TCS Cherokee City States mod :steammocking:
blkbutterfly  [Δημιουργός] 18 Σεπ 2017, 2:18 
@空气中有血崩味儿 Thx :steamhappy:

China is ally to India's neighbouring city-states and countries IRL
Vandatte 18 Σεπ 2017, 0:39 
Interesting mod, and discussions.I think it's important u devs work on things like TLS together rather than "permission".
BTW Indians do think of other countries' agenda in a ridiculous way. So faq India lol.And build more toilets plz, my co-parteners complain about it a lot.
Vie S 17 Σεπ 2017, 17:41 
if sri lanka was a street fighter character would it be sri blanka
DarthKyofu 17 Σεπ 2017, 16:30 
India has nukes. Sri Lanka doesn't. I work for the Indian government, on Prime Minister Modi's cabinet, and don't like this mod. Just saying.
RFormica 17 Σεπ 2017, 16:25 
Let's head back to the permission discussion.
Dray 17 Σεπ 2017, 16:23 
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blkbutterfly  [Δημιουργός] 17 Σεπ 2017, 16:17 
@sukritact I've not copied any of @thecrazyscotsman's artwork, XML or SQL. Technically this is a "patch" that includes that mod whole.
blkbutterfly  [Δημιουργός] 17 Σεπ 2017, 16:07 
@Chimpang I've removed the use of Sri Lankan city names from TCS Sri Lankan City State Pack cos they're not independent city states. Kandy, Anuradhapura, Kelaniya & Tissamaharama are the same civ. You have one CS or cities in a civ for Sri Lanka which I'm developing.

Technically this is a patch in preparation for my Sri Lanka led by Dutugamunu.
sukritact 17 Σεπ 2017, 16:05 
I'm aware this stuff is free. Nonetheless we all hold IP over the stuff we make. I would be in my right to report a mod that reused my artwork without permission.
chimp 17 Σεπ 2017, 16:04 
@-DI- Blkbutterfly

> "If you are Chinese and you want to make your own mod of China then you don't need those dev's permission. You have a right to your own culture."

And what have you made here exactly?
blkbutterfly  [Δημιουργός] 17 Σεπ 2017, 16:02 
@blitz56 If you are Chinese and you want to make your own mod of China then you don't need those dev's permission. You have a right to your own culture.
relic 17 Σεπ 2017, 16:00 
Oh cool! Let me go annex all the hard work of others who made China mods because they appropriated my culture!
blkbutterfly  [Δημιουργός] 17 Σεπ 2017, 16:00 
@Sukritact No $$$ value.
sukritact 17 Σεπ 2017, 15:58 
Free does not mean no IP. Look up creative commons.
blkbutterfly  [Δημιουργός] 17 Σεπ 2017, 15:57 
@Chrisy15 If there was any commercial value to these mods released on Steam then there would be digital IP. But these mods are released open/freesource. Like I told devs of Sri Lanka for Civ V last year.

In the absence of Digital Rights there is Cultural IP, or the right to one's own culture. If it's anything to do with Sri Lanka I don't need anybody's permissions :steamfacepalm:
Dray 17 Σεπ 2017, 15:56 
India has a space program you dumb btich motharfukar. We will be superpower by the year 2030 and we well fuck up Sri Lanka good.
Chrisy15 17 Σεπ 2017, 15:55 
When did this even become about cultural appropriation...
sukritact 17 Σεπ 2017, 15:52 
Congrats on misappropriation of Bangladesh and Pakistan.
Antagonise 17 Σεπ 2017, 15:33 
මෙය විශිෂ්ට වැඩක්!
blkbutterfly  [Δημιουργός] 17 Σεπ 2017, 15:32 
@sukritact Technically yes, you would. Though it doesn't happen in practice. But Apple did request permission from the Indian govt. for the use of Gandhi in its Think Different campaign. I doubt Firaxis did. IDK if India care.

What Cultural IP does is give me right not to have to get permission from boneheaded retards who appropriate my culture in game like Civ :steamfacepalm:
sukritact 17 Σεπ 2017, 15:27 
@-DI- Blkbutterfly: By your own logic you need permission from a Bangladeshi and a Pakistani for this mod.

I'd have needed permission from an Italian, a Swahili person and an Ethiopian for my mod. The modding community would be completely dead if everyone adhered to your ridiculous rules.
blkbutterfly  [Δημιουργός] 17 Σεπ 2017, 15:19 
@sukritact See → https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_appropriation

As a Sinhala I don't need your permission or anybody's to develop a Sri Lanka mod. If anything @chimpang and the other Sri Lanka mod devs need mine, because the right to use Sri Lanka and its city names belong to me and my people.
sukritact 17 Σεπ 2017, 15:16 
@-DI- Blkbutterfly- Then wait and include them in the Sri Lankan mod when you're done, like I did by renaming Zanzibar to Ternate IN my Swahili mod, and TCS did by renaming Jerusalem to Varanasi IN his Kingdom of Jerusalem mod.

Do you even understand misappropriation? Besides, by your own logic, you're misappropriating Bangaladesh and Pakistan, these CSs should be for a Bangaladesh or Pakistan mod.
VoodooRanja 17 Σεπ 2017, 10:17 
COMMUNIST!!!!!!
relic 17 Σεπ 2017, 9:52 
Not where he's from it ain't
blkbutterfly  [Δημιουργός] 17 Σεπ 2017, 9:30 
@RFormica If you're gonna tell people to remove stuff you should be telling JFD to remove his Nazi Hitler mods. That's probably illegal in some countries :steammocking:
blkbutterfly  [Δημιουργός] 17 Σεπ 2017, 9:19 
@RFormica No @thecrazyscotsman misappropriates Sri Lankan cities that should be for a Sri Lanka civ. I have to rename them ("patch" it) to make them compatible
RFormica 17 Σεπ 2017, 9:11 
If you don't want to be accused of ripping off TCS (which you are) then I would remove this.
RFormica 17 Σεπ 2017, 9:11 
There already is a Sri Lankan mod
blkbutterfly  [Δημιουργός] 17 Σεπ 2017, 5:32 
@RFormica Yeah :steamhappy:
RFormica 17 Σεπ 2017, 5:30 
Oh, never mind - so it's a patch instead of a completely separate mod.
blkbutterfly  [Δημιουργός] 17 Σεπ 2017, 5:13 
@RFormica But won't the TCS Sri Lanka City States will still conflict with the city names of the Sri Lanka civ I'm producing? → https://github.com/rmendis/SriLanka
RFormica 17 Σεπ 2017, 5:09 
If you want, I can help make this into a completely independant City-State pack.
blkbutterfly  [Δημιουργός] 17 Σεπ 2017, 4:10 
@Deliverator23 Why would anyone make Tissamaharama a CS? It's an outskirt city in Sri Lanka and never an independent city state like S'pore or Hong Kong.

Lahore for example is 15th most populous city in the world. Pakistan still is not represented at all in Civ VI
blkbutterfly  [Δημιουργός] 17 Σεπ 2017, 4:07 
@PiGreat I will eventually do my own Sri Lanka civ with King Dutugamunu. His capital is Anuradhapura. (So it would conflict with the Sri Lankan CS along with other city names of Sri Lanka)
Vie S 16 Σεπ 2017, 20:37 
>hitler
>doing anything wrong

am i being memed?
relic 16 Σεπ 2017, 17:36 
also as darth said swastikas were an indian symbol of peace
relic 16 Σεπ 2017, 17:33 
and fwiw the american left is nowhere near organized enough to form a "alt left"
relic 16 Σεπ 2017, 17:32 
Apparently you missed the part where I said I'm not pro nazi...

I didn't deny that the Nazis were evil, I simply said that this is part of history and therefore deserves the same respect - if not more, out of respect for the millions killed in the Holocaust- as any other part of history.

We don't ignore Nazis because we like them, we do it because it happened.
DarthKyofu 16 Σεπ 2017, 17:30 
As an Indian I must inform it's very disrespectful of you to associate the swastika, a traditional symbol of our country, to nazism. Typical western cultural misappropriation,
relic 16 Σεπ 2017, 17:30 
And what about games set in World War II? Should those be illegal if they let you play as the Axis powers?
blkbutterfly  [Δημιουργός] 16 Σεπ 2017, 17:30 
People, please go protest in Charlottesville.

..and stop misappropriating indigenous cultures. We are taking it back.

Yours,
Alt-Left
relic 16 Σεπ 2017, 17:29 
The Hitler mod isn't celebrating history - it's taking a piece of history that unfortunately had to exist and bringing it to a video game. While yes, Nazis were bad, does this mean that we also have to ignore, say, Pol Pot? What about other leaders who killed millions? Should Stalin be illegal?