Sid Meier's Civilization VI

Sid Meier's Civilization VI

BB Indian City State Pack
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Entarogan 2017년 9월 30일 오후 10시 16분 
@-Dl- Blkbutterfly looking forward to your new work.
blkbutterfly  [작성자] 2017년 9월 30일 오후 8시 50분 
@Entarogan Thx.

The problem is one of the CS Anuradhapura is the capital of Sri Lanka led by Dutugamunu, a civ/mod I'm developing (port of Civ V version).
Entarogan 2017년 9월 30일 오후 8시 41분 
@-Dl- Blkbutterfly maybe you can avoid name repetition instead of change other's name. But maybe it is not a significant problem. BTW nice work of your mod.
blkbutterfly  [작성자] 2017년 9월 30일 오후 8시 33분 
@Entarogan I didn't copy any artwork or code. The Sri Lankan CS have been renamed. That's all :steamfacepalm:
Entarogan 2017년 9월 30일 오후 8시 28분 
Though I don't know what actually happened I argue for more discussion and communication before a mod is made.
Entarogan 2017년 9월 30일 오후 8시 19분 
In my opinion I think it is OK if one did't copy other's artwork and code.
And I suggest that you join our "the Great Asia" project and locate those city states on the Asia map
blkbutterfly  [작성자] 2017년 9월 18일 오전 4시 23분 
@RFormica Ok. One last time.

Suppose it's the Cherokee.

The rights to the names of Cherokee cities (and use of a likeness to their leader) belong to the Cherokee people. So if @thecrazyscotsman develops a mod TCS Cherokee City States he's misappropriating their culture.

As Steam doesn't charge for mods, his IP has zero $ value.

Collective IP is legally recognised in the US for indigenous peoples in some cases. Also in Australia. IDK details TBH.

So a Cherokee wouldn't need his permission to develop a mod of Cherokee if he wished. In fact by using Cherokee city names @thecrazyscotsman actually gives the right to a Cherokee to modify/patch his TCS Cherokee City States mod :steammocking:
blkbutterfly  [작성자] 2017년 9월 18일 오전 2시 18분 
@空气中有血崩味儿 Thx :steamhappy:

China is ally to India's neighbouring city-states and countries IRL
Vandatte 2017년 9월 18일 오전 12시 39분 
Interesting mod, and discussions.I think it's important u devs work on things like TLS together rather than "permission".
BTW Indians do think of other countries' agenda in a ridiculous way. So faq India lol.And build more toilets plz, my co-parteners complain about it a lot.
Vie S 2017년 9월 17일 오후 5시 41분 
if sri lanka was a street fighter character would it be sri blanka
DarthKyofu 2017년 9월 17일 오후 4시 30분 
India has nukes. Sri Lanka doesn't. I work for the Indian government, on Prime Minister Modi's cabinet, and don't like this mod. Just saying.
RFormica 2017년 9월 17일 오후 4시 25분 
Let's head back to the permission discussion.
Dray 2017년 9월 17일 오후 4시 23분 
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blkbutterfly  [작성자] 2017년 9월 17일 오후 4시 17분 
@sukritact I've not copied any of @thecrazyscotsman's artwork, XML or SQL. Technically this is a "patch" that includes that mod whole.
blkbutterfly  [작성자] 2017년 9월 17일 오후 4시 07분 
@Chimpang I've removed the use of Sri Lankan city names from TCS Sri Lankan City State Pack cos they're not independent city states. Kandy, Anuradhapura, Kelaniya & Tissamaharama are the same civ. You have one CS or cities in a civ for Sri Lanka which I'm developing.

Technically this is a patch in preparation for my Sri Lanka led by Dutugamunu.
sukritact 2017년 9월 17일 오후 4시 05분 
I'm aware this stuff is free. Nonetheless we all hold IP over the stuff we make. I would be in my right to report a mod that reused my artwork without permission.
chimp 2017년 9월 17일 오후 4시 04분 
@-DI- Blkbutterfly

> "If you are Chinese and you want to make your own mod of China then you don't need those dev's permission. You have a right to your own culture."

And what have you made here exactly?
blkbutterfly  [작성자] 2017년 9월 17일 오후 4시 02분 
@blitz56 If you are Chinese and you want to make your own mod of China then you don't need those dev's permission. You have a right to your own culture.
relic 2017년 9월 17일 오후 4시 00분 
Oh cool! Let me go annex all the hard work of others who made China mods because they appropriated my culture!
blkbutterfly  [작성자] 2017년 9월 17일 오후 4시 00분 
@Sukritact No $$$ value.
sukritact 2017년 9월 17일 오후 3시 58분 
Free does not mean no IP. Look up creative commons.
blkbutterfly  [작성자] 2017년 9월 17일 오후 3시 57분 
@Chrisy15 If there was any commercial value to these mods released on Steam then there would be digital IP. But these mods are released open/freesource. Like I told devs of Sri Lanka for Civ V last year.

In the absence of Digital Rights there is Cultural IP, or the right to one's own culture. If it's anything to do with Sri Lanka I don't need anybody's permissions :steamfacepalm:
Dray 2017년 9월 17일 오후 3시 56분 
India has a space program you dumb btich motharfukar. We will be superpower by the year 2030 and we well fuck up Sri Lanka good.
Chrisy15 2017년 9월 17일 오후 3시 55분 
When did this even become about cultural appropriation...
sukritact 2017년 9월 17일 오후 3시 52분 
Congrats on misappropriation of Bangladesh and Pakistan.
Antagonise 2017년 9월 17일 오후 3시 33분 
මෙය විශිෂ්ට වැඩක්!
blkbutterfly  [작성자] 2017년 9월 17일 오후 3시 32분 
@sukritact Technically yes, you would. Though it doesn't happen in practice. But Apple did request permission from the Indian govt. for the use of Gandhi in its Think Different campaign. I doubt Firaxis did. IDK if India care.

What Cultural IP does is give me right not to have to get permission from boneheaded retards who appropriate my culture in game like Civ :steamfacepalm:
sukritact 2017년 9월 17일 오후 3시 27분 
@-DI- Blkbutterfly: By your own logic you need permission from a Bangladeshi and a Pakistani for this mod.

I'd have needed permission from an Italian, a Swahili person and an Ethiopian for my mod. The modding community would be completely dead if everyone adhered to your ridiculous rules.
blkbutterfly  [작성자] 2017년 9월 17일 오후 3시 19분 
@sukritact See → https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_appropriation

As a Sinhala I don't need your permission or anybody's to develop a Sri Lanka mod. If anything @chimpang and the other Sri Lanka mod devs need mine, because the right to use Sri Lanka and its city names belong to me and my people.
sukritact 2017년 9월 17일 오후 3시 16분 
@-DI- Blkbutterfly- Then wait and include them in the Sri Lankan mod when you're done, like I did by renaming Zanzibar to Ternate IN my Swahili mod, and TCS did by renaming Jerusalem to Varanasi IN his Kingdom of Jerusalem mod.

Do you even understand misappropriation? Besides, by your own logic, you're misappropriating Bangaladesh and Pakistan, these CSs should be for a Bangaladesh or Pakistan mod.
VoodooRanja 2017년 9월 17일 오전 10시 17분 
COMMUNIST!!!!!!
relic 2017년 9월 17일 오전 9시 52분 
Not where he's from it ain't
blkbutterfly  [작성자] 2017년 9월 17일 오전 9시 30분 
@RFormica If you're gonna tell people to remove stuff you should be telling JFD to remove his Nazi Hitler mods. That's probably illegal in some countries :steammocking:
blkbutterfly  [작성자] 2017년 9월 17일 오전 9시 19분 
@RFormica No @thecrazyscotsman misappropriates Sri Lankan cities that should be for a Sri Lanka civ. I have to rename them ("patch" it) to make them compatible
RFormica 2017년 9월 17일 오전 9시 11분 
If you don't want to be accused of ripping off TCS (which you are) then I would remove this.
RFormica 2017년 9월 17일 오전 9시 11분 
There already is a Sri Lankan mod
blkbutterfly  [작성자] 2017년 9월 17일 오전 5시 32분 
@RFormica Yeah :steamhappy:
RFormica 2017년 9월 17일 오전 5시 30분 
Oh, never mind - so it's a patch instead of a completely separate mod.
blkbutterfly  [작성자] 2017년 9월 17일 오전 5시 13분 
@RFormica But won't the TCS Sri Lanka City States will still conflict with the city names of the Sri Lanka civ I'm producing? → https://github.com/rmendis/SriLanka
RFormica 2017년 9월 17일 오전 5시 09분 
If you want, I can help make this into a completely independant City-State pack.
blkbutterfly  [작성자] 2017년 9월 17일 오전 4시 10분 
@Deliverator23 Why would anyone make Tissamaharama a CS? It's an outskirt city in Sri Lanka and never an independent city state like S'pore or Hong Kong.

Lahore for example is 15th most populous city in the world. Pakistan still is not represented at all in Civ VI
blkbutterfly  [작성자] 2017년 9월 17일 오전 4시 07분 
@PiGreat I will eventually do my own Sri Lanka civ with King Dutugamunu. His capital is Anuradhapura. (So it would conflict with the Sri Lankan CS along with other city names of Sri Lanka)
Vie S 2017년 9월 16일 오후 8시 37분 
>hitler
>doing anything wrong

am i being memed?
relic 2017년 9월 16일 오후 5시 36분 
also as darth said swastikas were an indian symbol of peace
relic 2017년 9월 16일 오후 5시 33분 
and fwiw the american left is nowhere near organized enough to form a "alt left"
relic 2017년 9월 16일 오후 5시 32분 
Apparently you missed the part where I said I'm not pro nazi...

I didn't deny that the Nazis were evil, I simply said that this is part of history and therefore deserves the same respect - if not more, out of respect for the millions killed in the Holocaust- as any other part of history.

We don't ignore Nazis because we like them, we do it because it happened.
DarthKyofu 2017년 9월 16일 오후 5시 30분 
As an Indian I must inform it's very disrespectful of you to associate the swastika, a traditional symbol of our country, to nazism. Typical western cultural misappropriation,
relic 2017년 9월 16일 오후 5시 30분 
And what about games set in World War II? Should those be illegal if they let you play as the Axis powers?
blkbutterfly  [작성자] 2017년 9월 16일 오후 5시 30분 
People, please go protest in Charlottesville.

..and stop misappropriating indigenous cultures. We are taking it back.

Yours,
Alt-Left
relic 2017년 9월 16일 오후 5시 29분 
The Hitler mod isn't celebrating history - it's taking a piece of history that unfortunately had to exist and bringing it to a video game. While yes, Nazis were bad, does this mean that we also have to ignore, say, Pol Pot? What about other leaders who killed millions? Should Stalin be illegal?