why would i want to run slower in arma lmao

Why does this seem to break stamina in both Cobalt and Indigo ACE? While I wish there was inertia effects on the body, it is nice you have running slowed down with loads even if it's not yet seeming to affect the AI, but stamina is now back to the high levels from before my ACE settings. So, without your mod I can briefly run fast, but with your mod I can run slow for a very long time. I think I notice you have getting up from a crouch as slowed, which is good, but again, not affecting stamina. All that stuff, moving while crouched, side stepping and turning while sprinting should be draining. Also, Cobalt Ace's medical is back to the old junk where you can turnicate a person's legs, shoot the legs up, and they die from 'accumulated damage'... among other annoyances.

Is there maybe a bug: AI with exactly same gear can allways run faster than me. Or is there a reason why it is like this? But in the end it is realy nice. Only the weight scala seems to me a bit weak. I can easely sprint with 25kg Gear over 22 km/h. But changing in the CBA settings the params don't change there something. Is there a way to speed things a little bit up? Still great mod

Indeed, the "sprint" in normal pacing becomes more of a combat jog when one is loaded with a lot of gear. I recommend using the pacing modes to better modulate your speed. The four modes, ruck, normal, rush, and sprint all have different stamina cost and movement speed coefficients, so they'll also likely resolve the stamina drain issue.

I was using standard fatigue module settings. I do understand what you are aiming with the long-term effect, which indeed I like, it's just as of now, i can sprint with a 20-25 kg loadout for a long time. In fact I can carry 50kg loadout and I would be slow as a snail but I can keep "sprinting" for what it seems like forever.

I don't use AAPM as of yet because my group and I are really into the infamous new ace medical, which we tweaked to our liking. Plus, the fact that spawned troops won't carry plates in their inventory, requiring extra mission tweak/micro managing. But it is extremely tempting, as is all your mods.

But this UMO is really great. Only tweak I feel like I need is bump in the stamina depletion, not like ACE standard settings, but something in between.

Thanks for the heads up! I'll check things out on my end. Indigo / Cobalt use the same stamina model, and primarily focus on long-term stamina with heavier loadouts - pretty much for when you're playing with Advanced Armor Plate Mod and packing plates over long treks. As such, they do extend your stamina supply beyond the ACE3 default.

Are you running Indigo with default stamina module settings?

Hi again El Berl. I'm using Indigo Ace and UMO. The weight/mobility seems to be working just fine. The only thing seems off is the stamina drops very, very slowly.

It pretty much make stamina inrelevant and only the weight/mobility important. I ramped the fatigue effect to 5.0 but it seems to make no change.

Thank you for your work.

My apologies for the late response. It's compatible with only two versions of ACE, namely Indigo and Cobalt, due to their custom stamina system.

The difference between the two is that Indigo is new medical, while Cobalt is pre-rewrite. To work with AAPM, you'll want Cobalt.

Is this compatible with either ace Singleplayer or Campaign Compatible ACE + ACEX?

Ideally I'd like to play the East wind with this mod plus your plate mod.

Great to hear you're enjoying the mod! You ask good questions, so I'll break my response up to address each point.

1. A lite version is certainly on the table, although the speed penalties are very much entwined with the stamina alterations from Cobalt ACE and so it would be quite the ordeal to rework the math. I may consider a lite version down the road, maybe as an optional PBO distributed alongside the normal version.

2. CBA server options are a good idea, but the mod's scripting is all done in one SQF file, and so it cannot be split up function by function like ACE3 can.

I definitely plan on continuing UMO development down the road, though. Stay tuned!

Hi V. Berlioz, thank you for sharing this fantastic mod! This is a *lot* more in-depth than the description on this workshop page suggests. Damn impressive!
If I may ask a - perhaps naive - question: In order to ensure better compatibility with other mods, would it be possible to create a "lite" version that only contains the speed penalties - or, alternatively, maybe implement CBA server options to pick which particular features would be enabled during a game? Fully understandable if this isn't the vision you have for this project, of course. Just thought I'd ask anyway :-)

Anyway, thank you very much for this!

That command (player setStamina 1;) is standard practice for maximizing the vanilla stamina bar, so there are very strong odds that you're right and they're using it. It's a shame that Antistasi doesn't quite account for ACE stamina, but I'm glad to hear you're enjoying the mod!

Alright, that's what I thought too. Thank you for the rapid response, love the mod even if I won't be able to use it for antistasi! I tried the same thing in the editor and setting my stamina to max using the debug command player setStamina 1; also broke it. Might be their script is doing the same thing?

That sounds like a scripting error on their end. UMO and Cobalt ACE only revise the ACE model, and do not input any changes drastic enough to break it.

Indigo

Are you using either Indigo or Cobalt ACE?

This doesn't seem compatible with Antistasi. Whenever you heal up using the box in that game mode you get unlimited stamina.

(: FAKIN BRILLIANT

Yep, it also affects AI.

does this also effect AI because thats the only thing holding me off from getting this

I had an error in ACE, something related to uniform, I don't know if it was this or the cobalt.

Consider those recommendations, aside from Cobalt. You need Cobalt ACE for UMO, but you can use either Legacy or Cobalt for AAPM.

Hi, just about to try your mods out for the first time. Could I ask that we have only one ACE variant for your mods please? At the moment I can't decide to use Cobalt or Legacy...

Thanks mate.

Congrats on standalone releases bud!