this mod its compatible whit upc translation projeckt?

could the mod perhaps make the faction playable?

@arn100: I didn't engage with modding in the game for a long time now and I'm not really sure what the problem could be; maybe one of the updates changed the type of stables and they are now in the wrong category... :/

Very nice mod. I have a question though. In description it is written that Venetic Cavarly are "recruitable through stables in steps 2-4". When I started campaing, I didn't see this unit in stables. Do I have to do specific research or there is another stables of some kind ?

that ugly green... smh, great work though

could the cavalry units (like the Ekupetaris) from 'Rise of the Republic' be added?

I just did, it should work again.

Actualizar por favor, i love italy

Finally updated.

@creditcard number: I'm pretty sure this mod is still working, but besides there are some major problems: First, I don't know anymore which things I have to do exactly and I don't have the time to find out either and second, my computer crashed reeally badly two times I tried to test if another mod of mine is still working.

Will this be updated?

@zeitbauer: Well, Illirians not exately (Illirians are on Satem-Language Group), but Latins and Celtics maybe...however, Venetics language gave origin, during Halstatt Culture (XIII°/VIII° sec B.C.) to Ancient Italic, Celtic and, partially, Illirian idiom.

Well that's true, but Venetic is related much closer to these languages than Celtic.

celtic is related to latin and illyric. they're all IE languages and cultures.

beautiful mod, the only flaw and lack of cavalry units and wagons

Can you please update the mod? Thanks.

1) We dont know much about Sarmatian language, but there never was only one sarmatian language.
2) The language of some Sarmatians and Ancestors of Slavs were nearly the same

Ok there was our mistake. For me, blood doesn't matter in any way. It's the language that engraves a people. Blood can change, due to external influences and it isn't visible. But language is the central fixpoint of a people. At least that's how I see it.

@[TBO] Ermanarich: The Y-chromosome shows that many Slavs have Sarmatian ancestors. Even if the language is not the original Sarmatian. Blood is the only thing that matters. Dont think only about language. One foreign warlord is enough to change a language for ever.

I didn't say anything with the Veneti, because that's linguistically bullshit. But same counts for sarmatian: The Serboi are counted by the ancient authors as Sarmatians, but this classification is only after the area where they live. Listen, the problem with the Alani or Sarmati is, that they are linguistically very far away from the modern Slavs. Of course, with what you describe for the Serbs could be a similiar thing like it happened with the Bulgars.

What I wanna say is, that there may have been a strong sarmatian influence, but they're not linguistically the ancestors of the Slavs.

@[TBO] Ermanarich: And dont say:"Its just a Theory" . Its a much better explanation of the Slavic origin then the Veneti Theory

Theory about Iranian origin of the Serb ethnonym assumes that ancient Serbi / Serboi from north Caucasus (Asiatic Sarmatia) were an Sarmatian (Alanian) tribe.[21] The theory subsequently assumes that Alanian Serbi were subdued by the Huns in the 4th century and that they, as part of the Hunnic army, migrated to the western edge of the Hunnic Empire (in the area of Central Europe near the river Elbe, later designated as White Serbia in what is now Saxony (eastern Germany) and western Poland). After Hunnic leader Attila died (in 453), Alanian Serbi presumably became independent and ruled in the east of the river Saale (in modern-day Germany) over local Slavic population ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_hypotheses_of_the_Serbs )

Ya? And to which group belongs Balto-Slavic??? Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serboi Serboi are a Sarmatian Tribe read it up.

@Alexius Scythicus: Definitely not. Look it up at Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IndoEuropeanTreeDielli1.svg
The slavic languages belong to the baltoslavic branch of the indoeuropean languages and are related to baltic languages, germanic and interestingly tocharian.

Oh, and Sorbs are simply slavic people, there is nothing sarmatian about them.

Slavic belongs to the Iranian branch of Indoeuropean languages same as Ossetian only that Ossetians are Alans and got lot of Turk influence through time. Also the same time the Sarmatians disapear the Slavs appear. Google the Sorbs. Sorbs were a Sarmatian tribe. These ppl the Sorbs who live today in Serbia and Germany are Slavs. Also DNA doesnt lie. Google: Haplogroup R1a.

@Alexius Scythicus:
Sarmatian is quite uncertain, since this languages belong to the indo-iranian branch of the Indo-European languages. Today, the Ossetians are linguistically, as far I know, the only remaining descendants of the Saramtians.

But besides that you're right.

I think Slavic ppl are Sarmatians and not Venetis. Even if the names Veden and Veneti are close to each other. If Slavs were really Venetis they would have had better pottery. But those slightly "primitive" pottery shows that Slavs were Nomads who left their old ways of living and started to work the fields. So they had to learn everything that other nonnomadic cultures already had. Also the haplogroup R1a that Sarmatians had in their DNA is in most of todays Slavs. And Slavic language belongs to the Iranian branch of Indoeuropean languages. So nothing Celtic in it.

And is exactly what I have always said, in several occasions!
Slavic peoples, mistakenly identified with the ancient Veneti / Wendi / Venedi have nothing to do with Slavs.
It is not excluded,however, that some raids Ancient Veneti may have influenced Slavic peoples.
But,how many experts said,in slavic language,Venedi or Wendi mean...strangers,or people with different idiom than Slavic Language ( "satem language" or Eastern Indoeuropean,in opposition to "Kentum language" or Western Indoeuropean language,who was spoken by Veneti)

@UnskilleD: Yeah. Wasn't that experienceed in modding when I did this one, it was actually my first one. And currently I definitely have no time to mod anything.

Do I get it right, that this mod only adds these new units to Venetia, instead of replaceing the old celtic ones?

I will wait)

@vladipa: Ok, I'll keep it in my mind. But I won't be able to fix this in the next months, sorry.

compared with the original barbarian infantry how. Because of what the new units in this fashion does not demand

@vladipa: Are they really too weak?

Strengthen royal swordsmen !!!

@Xangelo7: Yeah. And after I started to try to fix the error, they turned for a short time to completely not recruitable.

finally. before they were had no ui emblem

@Xangelo7: Not only that, you can also recruit the venetic units again. ;)

so this means that i can use the historical illyrian looking venetti generals?

All problems are fixed now. The problem wasn't this mod but the faction unlock mod. I actualized that now.
A big thanks goes to Cataph, who helped me very much in finding the issue.

ok

Hah! Found the error. Generals in HatG work now. Or either fight. Only thing is that there is a recruiting problem at the moment... But I'll fix that too.

@Xangelo7:
I have no clue where the matter could be, but it doesn't work. The things are changed and it should work. But it doesn't.
I'll try a little more to fix it, but I don't think that I can do it :/

The mod is still works great with DEI and Ancient Empires DEI (latest DEI submod)

@Xangelo7: Yeah, I tested it out too yesterday. The generals don't work yet. I try to fix it but for now I couldn't find the issue.
The unit cards in HatG were crashed too. This problem is fixed, but I'm still working on the generals.

Last time I tested venetic only used Celtic generals in HATG

@Xangelo7:
Propably you tested it out yet, but yes, they should be playable in Hannibal at the Gates. Only the first one is celtic.

Are the venetic generals in Hannibal in the gates playable or they just using the Celtic general?

@Seht-N-Stone: Thank you so much for this comment! :) Very motivating!

@[TBO] Ermanarich "I never modded before this, and it was a difficult way to understand all that, but now, here is my mod." I couldn't tell by the looks of your work, stellar job you've done here and I wish you the best in all your efforts!!!