The kind of map that you want to be play alongside another game so you have something to do during the six minutes between turns. Absolutely worth it. I ended up plopping down a cheap summon ritual unit on auto next to a patch of lava so that they'd wander in and the extremely loud "Someone is on fucking fire" turn start noise would let me know when it's done loading.

By the way, I actually put forest factions on the 9th and 7th slot and this also works quite well (for example, the barbarian), so in fact this map is quite universal

This is "the" CoE5 map. But damn, those turn times...

The bakemono faction is(almost) unplayable, their starting stronghold is occupied by dwarves and they have no starting army.

Nothing is automatic, the slots are designed to better suit certain characters because resources etc but you should set everything manually

Let's day you want to play as Troll King, create 24 races, ser them races that better suit slots, and change the 22th slot of the list to Human player and Troll King

When you choose and set races for AI and yourself don't put your human in the first position of the list

How do you change your spawn point, every game i spawn in position 1

How do you add the spawn points? I was trying to reverse engineer it but couldnt figure out how to open Gigantica in the map editor. I have a little map for me and my friend to pvp each other and I cant figure out the spawning system any help please?

I believe there's one option that still has a similar spawn rate for the deep horde, except for the balrogs, which were probably spammed a bit too much.

Just curious what the latest changes do to the spawn rate. I actually enjoyed the challenge of heading off the goblin invasion and then counter invading when I get the chance. (and turning up the difficulty on most factions)

Easily my favorite mod for CoE. My only gripe is that - due to the size of this map and CoE's awful processing power - Gigantea games quickly become unplayable after 30 minutes due to the massive wait time between turns.

In any event, excellent work. Thanks for the great mod!

Wathever you did to give mountain defences, causes dwarfs to spawn in bakemono start positions, intantly killing the starting army

would be fun to have libraries in the most exterior parts, far away from the center

if you can add few more libraries to train our mages while exploing..

Yes please put a plain map version, could be very fun to randomize with HoM
Thank you in advance!

Looks like a fun mod, but I have a few doubts because it places towns randomly, and I placed towns in specific places on this map with roads between them, etc. You could certainly try. I maybe could put out a really plain map version, if you think this specific map would be somehow ideal for that mod.

ok, thanks, do you think your mod is compatible with HoM 3 mod?

Slot 5-21 is basically anyone, really.
Slots 1-4 and 22 are for wilderness factions or slow developing factions.
Slot 23 is for whoever you want to be most powerful
... and 24 is for that faction's evil necro antagonist.

The ideal balance I aimed for was 23 being a tough opponent, but beatable by letting its evil counterpart wear it out, while you consolidate over the outer rim opponents. Actual balance may vary.

I believe so, aye.

Player illusionist is mean to be played in slot 5-21?

thank

Betcha no one saw that coming. Gigantea is now playable by non-masochists.

Yeah, I can see how I went overboard with those. I'll change a few spawn variables when I have time.

any way to remove custom events? I honestly dont like them and as othes said, they make the turns take ages

The map is amazing and i wish i could see it all , but the custom events kill all of my runs , i can't with turns taking 10-20 minutes

Going to dust this off, so maybe will check deep ones out.

any update on deep ones underground starts?

Love the map. Custom events make turns take a long time tho

I love this map and all the goodies in it so far. Quick question. Is there a way to end the goblins spawning from the pits, or are they infinite? I've been fighting them as Dwarf Queen for a while but I've beat them back to the pits, and have even taken the resources but they just keep coming. If it is infinite, A way to permanently end it would be nice, especially since the underground is very important to traversing the map.

One of the ancient road pieces conflicts with the Dragon Fanatic mod's temple. It isn't too much of an issue but I'm not intelligent enough to fix it on my own.

is it normal to have to fight 10s of thousands of goblins??

For some reason the AI can move on and past impassible mountains

goblin spawn keeps popping

Neat. Impassable mountain design is cool

Love the map, only problem is the custom events start taking forever. It can take 15-20 minutes after I end my turn before I can play again.

I love this map, but the single thing that annoys me the most is that nearly every game the apocolypse comes

Not sure if its intended, but unless the dwarf faction has good fortinfications, casting portal of Dvala is suicide. The goblins use the dwarf portal area as a highway. I've seen the AI dwarfs suicide doing this and have confirmed it with the current game using a dwarf faction.

I've found a bug, I guess? When you play on the map "Gigantea-and-Underworld-Improved" and you setup someone to play as the Bakemono faction they will be attacked right at the front of the game and killed by an army of Independent dwarves.

Actual inferno? I thought I overwrote all the villages so that no cultists could exist. If it's the goblin spawn from the deep pits, I can adjust that.

The last 7 or so times tried playing this map the inferno event has always spawned leading the the locust invasion across the entire map.

Following up regarding spawns; I've found that Liches are the correct solution to enormous goblin hordes; battlefield wipes, the best summons in the game (in terms of quantity), the ability to freely raise huge permanent armies from the dead spawn, and immortality if anything somehow goes wrong.

Working to conquer the underworld now, but it's nowhere near as easy as it used to be. Not sure it's doable for factions unable to reanimate the dead; if I was actually paying for the troops lost in the darkness, I'd be pretty salty about it.

When you get around to doing the next update, any chance of updating the Workshop map? The current version doesn't show all the lovely goodies you've added, which makes the map look a lot more barren than it now is.

Endovior, I think I got it this time. Certain battle maps just don't work on certain planes. I'm using the dwarf fort batmap now.

Mohreb, they can all be edited except for Hades. Most are already good enough for what they are, imo. There might still be bugs in Illwinter's editor. I mainly just edit the text files directly.

Can other planes be edited ? (like custom Hades, Inferno or Primal plane for example) (not that this map would need them i was just wondering ...)

I note that in the new version of the map, Mighty Fortresses still don't count as Siege locations, and don't have gates. This is very bad for the siege weapons defending them, which are far less threatening without a bunch of free shots.

I'm glad you like it. I think the random sky realm gives it some uncertainty, and on a huge fixed map, that's important. Plus, can't think of an interesting twist like in Agartha.

Nice, i finally some other mods i left activated might caused it too, as i was able to speed up by unloading some. Bytheway a really nice map, thank you for creating it.
Have you plans for the "sky" realm too?

There's the old map, but people probably like having the extra goodies of the new map and just want fewer spawns.

There isn't much script firing after -1 turn, so it's just a dozen or so AI armies slowly conquering Agartha that can be computationally intense on some systems.

I will launch a simple version of the new map soon, with the underground pre-conquered like the old map.

I'll include that option with the update that has dwarf and pale one agartha starts. Those who need simplicity can get it, and those who want more can also get it.

@Mohreb: Are you using any other mods? Custom Events have an additive impact, after all.