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@Ranger of Ithilien, no it requires them to have the building in the region from which they can recruit those units themselves. If they can't recruit it themselves you can't recruit them either. So a barracks for infantry units and a stables for cavalry. You get the point.

summary does the mod requires your client to be at it's "native lands" in order to recruit their higher tier units? I've subjugated Galatia as the Seleucids at Amaseia and all I get are some Capadocian Infantry.

@Summary...I unclicked all my mods except for DEI and put your mod above and then tried below the main DEI. The game crashed on when I tried to start the mod loader.

@ THE RIDER NEVER ENDS I am acutely aware of these mods. In fact, the author is actually a close friend of mine and one who I credit with being my mentor. However, due to his busy RL schedule he is unable to allocate time to clean up these issues. The idea is to work closely with him and then integrate both mods into this mod and make it available to the community. But as with most mods, it is all free work, as such there is no such thing as a release date.

As to the question of whether it will be integrated to DEI, that is a step further. I don't believe there will be any opposition to doing so. But it will have to be extensively tested before that decision is made. The DEI mod team is very welcoming of new mechanics, but they prioritize stability over everything, and I whole-heatedly agree with this mindset. After all, we are all keenly aware that even a amazing product if released in a pitiful state will draw more criticism than praise *cough* Rome 2 launch *cough*!

@ Old Dragoon I believe the mod is up-to-date. If you could be so kind as to offer me the specifics of what isn't working for you, I can promptly fix it for the community :)

I don't know if it's gonna be integrated into DEI but you should check out on the DEI discord "client_annex_TEST.pack" and "Vassals_mod_test.pack" (arguably the latter is messier)

Make the change capital button into a "annex vassal province" button, can't make the second work tho (for vassal liberated factions)

Please update the mod. Thank you!

Ever since the update, the vassal levies are no longer better.

i play with a lot of mods, this worked for me before the update, now it makes me crash when i klick on the rome faction, did the update do something maybe?

Wow this mod looks impressive!

Yep, it is updated. Please let me know if there are any issues.

Is an update coming for this now that the Beta's over?

@Sven Kaerlig Yes go to their territory and there is a special button to recruit from client states.

How do you recruit vassal levies? Do you have to go to their territory and recruit?

@Ess I can't help you with that, it happens with me too. It is a CA bug, as such nothing any modder can do about it. However, you can replay the battle with a time limit and that way the AI will eventually lose.

@ Il Glande Segletalio you can use the Timbe Trade regions submod available in the TWCenter forums.

is it ever going to be possible to annex the vassals rather than having to attack them?

Hi Summary, hope you can help me with this big bug, when i fight the ai some of the ai units get stuck underground? i dont know why... i use the same mods as you do in your yt video when playing rome dei. please help me

Would you have an updated mod list for Rome? The one you posted a year ago led to different mods. Thank you for the hard work!

@Big Squeep

The way how levies work is that there are no unit caps. So you can levy as many of a unit from the vassal as you like, a limitation that the faction itself would have to endure. This even applies to possible AOR units. Example: If you vassalize Seleucids in Syria then you can get unlimited access to AOR Syrian War Elephants.

Is the unit cap removed as well?

@ RAY this is strictly for DEI. It would not recommend using it for Parabellum.

does this work with parabellum? or a different version perhaps?

Update the mod to include replenishment in different cultured vassals.

@Space_Lettuce_OG thank you for the kind words. Yes hopefully in the future when time avails, we can implement these sort of things.

Ahhhh, I like this idea a lot!
I know it's beyond the modding tools capabilities for TW games, but I'd like to see this idea implemented in future games, with a downside of if the vassal declares independence the troops could leave. It'd give an incentive to not annex a vassal, as well as a personal goal of which factions the player makes a personal goal to subjugate.
Like for me, I'd play Armenia, and try and B-line it to Parthia, so I can recruit their better cavalry, while still having the store-brand Armenian legionaries.

Very neat idea! I like it, I like it a lot!

@The Grimwar, ah maybe they don't okay cool. I did not know that.

Wait, I thought the AI didn't use the population system, did you actually manage to crack that part of the engine?

@The Grimwar sadly no, you can't. Technically you can but that will require a separate mod for each faction, and it would apply the 4th pop to the AI too which could break the game in terms of balance, cause the AI will recruit 4th pop elites in their own armies.

@Space_Lettuce_OG You move into the territory of the vassal and if they have the buildings that allow themselves to recruit those units, you can recruit them as well. It is a different button that the recruit and mercenary button it looks like the icon on the right of word "Levies" in the mod thumbnail (the one with the chain and the plus sign).

Interesting...
So, how does it work?
Do I request levies through diplomacy or must I go into the province of a vassal and open recruitment, or mercenary recruitment?

1 question: is it possible to make the units you levy from the client vassals into 4th class population?

@Lykourgian purely unlocks them for levy troops. Doesn't have a difference except for a minor difference to unit spacing, that is barely noticeable.

Does the changing of Elite to well_trained status have any great consequences or is it purely linked to levying?

@God of War

No. They can't be increased, it is all just random.

are the odds increased for elite units like silver shields once certain reforms are achieved

@Demacia you're welcome :)

Thank you for this mod!

@The Grimwar yes

Is this save game compatible?

@Change your most welcome

@Chrissant :)

Thanks for sharing

Levy Buffet.

@Iequintal

Yes. Elite troops cannot be levied. Therefore, those troops need to be downgraded. This way you can levy elite troops. Example: Silver Shield Thorax Pikemen, Spartan Thorax Hoplites, Late Parthian Noble Cataphracts, etc.

Is Downgrading "elite" troops to "well_trained" necessary for those units to be recruitable?