Thanks for the speedy response @Mrvecz. Gonna give it a shot then and see how it goes.

@Embrace the Moonlight
Purging the configs would defuct the viper class and related mechanics, but the ability itself, the sidewinder is hidden in a script file, so it should work...well in theory, worth trying out.

Hey again. Using the mod, loving the mod, but one question. Do you think I could delete most of the config for Viper class overhaul and still reap the benefits such as the sidewinder perk, so long as I don't delete anything related to that. Planning on using allies unknown in my next run and thought that might be a neat work around. Also, again loving the mod in its entirety.

I also have a problem with shotgun wedding not work due to ammo limitation. No idea on the conflict, but to be honest my VG is kicking the proverbial without it...

Thanks for the quick reply!

Sadly I wasn't using the hunting shotgun, I was using a mag tier shotgun

So far, I tried

testing with different secondaries, empty, pistol and shield

respeccing my existing vanguard via command, didn't work.

in case my vanguard was bugged, created a new vanguard via commands, didn't work.

Unsubing and resubbing, sadly it didn't fix it.

I created a new save, promoted someone via commands, still not enough ammo.

in case my skill was bugged, I promoted my frost adder, and oddly enough it works.

in case its related to human shotgun classes, edited another class to have the skill and for some reason the guy can use it.

So with my current line of testing, it seems to be a very specific clash or unknown bug (so far only affecting me) relating to Vanguards.

hopefully this helps find whatever's causing this weird bug. If no one else has this issue and it can't be replicated, then I'll chalk it up to an oddly specific mod clash or a curse.

Though... are you using the hunting shotgun instead of the standard shotgun ? When i looked back on Discord on the picture of someone about to use the shotgun wedding, they were using the plasma beam tier shotgun...maybe its not possible with hunting shotgun ?

@Shady
Hmm, that is odd, given i saw people using it just fine on Discord (they were like lookee here how Vanguard can one tap 8 people in pod from concealment) and its an already existing perk in Mod Jam (Frost Adders can get it too) so you not being able to use it is quite sus

Is it just me or is there a bug related to "shotgun wedding", to me its constantly saying "insufficient ammo" (I tried putting an elite expanded mag and micro rounds, 8-9 bullets, apparently not enough)

Man I dont know how you did it but the mod is incredible. The class is very original.

Fuck it, i will look in to making my own class icon in future when i get time

I am pretty sure no one will like to hear this, but that tank icon actually is used by deadguy's class pack for LWotC... In case you want to change it again here is an icon pack that might come in handy: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2893087536

Thanks! I forgot to say that now there's a great mod Color Class Icons with a good reference list of classes. So you can check out whether your icon is already used or not.
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2986541763
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/workshop/filedetails/discussion/2986541763/3809529690302517389/
I use this mod. And will ask the author to include the new icon of your class. Or, you could ask him yourself;)

@hottt3
Done, changed to tank icon instead, given Vanguards are still on the more durable side of workshop classes.
Hardest part was finding an icon that wasnt used yet, given he has 4 pages of classes and all the most fitting icons are already used up. Almost contemplated starting creating my own class icons...

Thanks for the mod!
Do you know that your class has the same icon as Marauder class by Pet Rock?
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2836852756
It would be really great if you change the icon so that players (like me) not confuse these two classes in game. Thanks again)

@Roxeus Rose
Uh... even if i dont speak Spanish, i am pretty sure you are asking about the viper overhaul mod, it is essential unless you dont want the most interesting perk on the whole class (Sidewinder) and like gimp more perks like blitz kick which is usable after sidewinder activates on enemy turn.

I kinda written MJ in the mods name for a reason, while not being official part of the collection, i kinda expected that people who play Mod Jam will just download and play, no further mods required given they have everything already.

XCOM 2 Aliens jugable - Revisión de la clase Viper consulta este si o si es obligatorio ? por que yo uso : https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2560189445&searchtext=viper y es incompatible con ese mod de requisitos

any chance of making a WOTC version?

Great looking mod. I wish I could give it a try, but don't use all that playable aliens business. You did great!

There have been a barrage of updates, because SDK kit was messing with me and also because i am a dumbass, Vanguards now have Engarde instead of defence shift or galvanized armor. This adds bladestorm effect to shield wall, even if it does little damage, it could kill low-hp enemies and serves as additional layer of defences
If you want to get the most up to date version of Vanguard without having to launch a new game, just open the console and type this in:

RespecSelectedSoldier

And boom, your tree should update itself

Wish I could use this, but sadly I use https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/workshop/filedetails/?id=2560189445 for my vipers and it conflicts with the one you have required.

@Embrace the Moonlight
Without Vipers overhaul, Vanguards will lose the Sidewinder perk, which is a big part of this class, which would also make perks like Blitz Kick useless (Given Blitz Kick requires movement only point, which is supplied by the Sidewinder activating, Implacable would be the only other source).

I guess it wouldnt make them unplayable, but alot more fragile than intended for being a close range class locked in the frontline where they will get shot at often.

I plan on adding this to my next run, but I have a quick question. Is viper class overhaul really necessary? I know its in the requirements, but sometimes you know you don't have to fulfill all of the requirements for a mod to work properly.

@Swaggy B
You are right, i was confused for a moment when i saw your post, but its true. Mod Jam itself contains the same changes as the Lagos Shield Rework of turning shields in to Guard machine rather than one for all Templar-esque shield. So i removed it from the requirements

Looks very cool, but are you sure Lago's Shield Rework is standard for Mod Jam? I don't see it in Illogical's collection.