Thanks for the mod, seems brilliant.
We need the update so badly please.

hello I figure how to somewhat make my own unit for rome2 using the sh*tty pfm program. My question how do i add "looks" like could i use the assembly kit for the what i want then paste that into the unit i have? and if so how do i do so?

Pls update. I need this mod so badly

Could you update this?

Can this be added in the middle of a campaign? Or do I need to start fresh?

Truly great.

could you make a separate mini mod where the spartans only wear corinthians? i'd do it myself but i have very little modding experience. BTW this is one of the best sparta mods ive seen i love their linothoraxes

You should make the new marines that you added buildable in fleets and not just armies

Could you make this mod compatible with a mod that unlocks all factions for WoS? would be great :D

true. elites were limited.

Because an army consisting entirely of elite units doesn't make any sense, that's why.

Was kinda frustrating when I got to recruit Korinthian Hoplites and got a whole 2, plus 2 generals. : ( Why would I want to use those crap regular hoplites as the bulk of my army. Kind of a let down.

DO YOU USE A 1 TURNTRAIN MOD?

Anyone else is welcome to do it of course.

Definitely not ever happening by my hands, sorry.

Any way to get the mod in other languages? Like spanish

With how sad the unit diversity is in Wrath of Sparta this is a much needed mod. If you ever add anything to this you should consider the Kretan Archers going to the factions of Crete, or at least the Minoans. The unit is already in the game as mercenaries so it should be easy. Why CA thought that "Cretan" Archers should be absent from all of the factions in control of "Crete" is beyond me.

I've really been enjoying this mod and the diversity to the rosters that it adds but I just have one quick question. In my opinion your reskin of the original hoplites for each faction makes it much, much harder to distinguish between troops during a fight. what db file would I need to edit to just revert those particular hoplite unit skins back to vanilla? everything else is great but the hoplite reskins have been somewhat irritating for me

umh i can disable the retexture of the vanilla units with the pfm ?

Might I suggest adding Mercenary Tarantine Cavalry as well? They were quite popular as mercenaries during the Peloponnesian War and beyond in Greece. Scythian Horse Archers might be another mercenary unit to add, as they're known to have been used by Athens at least.

Regarding the Spartan swords unit, I suggest modelling them after the Krypteia. According to Plutarch, they were apparently used as a reconnaisance force by the Spartans, as well as serving as the Spartan secret police. They also were apparently chosen from only the very best of the Agoge students. So, going off of that, perhaps a heavy sword unit with guerilla deployment and a tight unit cap?

Sadly, I've been able to find nothing on the Conrinthian military, and the only things I'm seeing for the Boetian League is the Theban Sacred Band and their cavalry force.

any news on that man?

Where's anything for Sparta?

cool thank you i know that Phalangitis incorporated it into his mod if your interested in it aswell hes the person to ask

Of course it's ok, mod away! Like I said though, I don't even have any clue how you'd do it to be honest, or else I'd probably had done it already. It's a complicated thing since there's nothing like it in vanilla. You couldn't use the default pikemen set up as the animations there are completely off, so you'd probably have to make a new unit ability that's basically what the vanilla pike formation is except with normal spears. But personally I don't know how to do that but I think that's where you should go digging.

How do you add secondary swords to the spartans. ive looked and cant seem to find anything useful... id like to know so i can PFM yor mod for my own personal use if that is ok?

Meh, too bad about the sword units. I enjoyed the other units.

Afraid doing that is a very complicated procedure. And trust me, I really didn't want to make a spartan sword unit but it was the only thing people constantly requested so I figured I might as well. With the cap they have on them and all I think it's bearable. At least for me.

instead of the spartan heavy swords which sparta never had just a sword unit... could you not have put the spartan hoplites ect to use a secondary sword when not in phalanx or enemies get to close

Ok, I guess I overlooked it. I will no more bother you with my opinions. This was my last post.

Hi I've really enjoyed your mod. Could you show a few screen shots of how you changed the faction skins. Not all the units, just for example old vanilla Athenian Hoplites vs. your modded skins for Athenian hoplites, and old Spartan Hoplites vs. Your Spartan Hoplites etc. Excellent mod though thanks!

I really don't mean to be rude but I've told you three times already that I will look into the stats of the light hoplites. I've made no promises to edit the vanilla skiritai and neither will I. There are other more significant things I want to address. Now I would appreciate it if you stopped making specific requests/suggestions about the same thing over and over and let me work on the mod, rather than answer the same question time and time again.

Aquizar is my guy for screenshots and he's doing a good job at it. Once he can I'm sure he'll get to making new unit cards for the new units. Until then, thank you but no thanks.

Ok, I did not notice it : ) Thank you for your answer. Do you want new unit cards for Spartan heavy swordsmen and Skiritai swordsmen?
And what about stats of Light Hoplites and Skiritai?

Thanks for the effort but Messenians already have a unit card and I'm happy with it.

I've dropped the Thespian, Messenian and Korinthian hoplites to be available at level 3 and 4 barracks instead of just 4. That's how I thought I had it set up but looks like I goofed it up at some point. Should be correct now.

I made unit cards for your Messenian Hoplites and Peltasts. You can use them if you want. I put them on sandspace, here are links for their icons and masks:
Messenian Hoplites
https://www.sendspace.com/file/sc3r8f
https://www.sendspace.com/file/g4e4cv
Peltasts
https://www.sendspace.com/file/p1x4xq
https://www.sendspace.com/file/mau6sk
And what about my previous post?

Uploading them in just a minute. Be ready for an update. I've done some other changes too so check the update logs for more deets.

Nice work mate. I have one request. Can you change a little recruiting of Corinthos to bring variety to their roster earlier? Now most of your units are really only for later game. I think that this would be a bit better (just my opinion):
Korinthian Marines - Hoplite Barracks level 2
Korinthian Hoplites - Hoplite Barracks level 3
Armoured Korinthian Marines - Hoplite Barracks level 4
- Moreover, I would be very grateful If you can increase stats of Light Hoplites and Skiritai (and for Skiritai ability to stalk) as we were talking before - now these are really unnecessary units.
Thanks again for everything.

what are those new untis you made? when can we recruit them?

ok, as you wish mate, you are the modder, i´m your fan =) but that colour sames un-reaistic to me, like hoplites in fever of the saturday night hahaha

Yeah that's the one from this mod. Like I said, looks fine to me, so I'm as of right now I'm not changing it.

That´s the colour i told you, without ancient colors, is that ok?

http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/549769266192816654/0CFA8AE2F191ACF6ABA6F2AEA2F065AAF00F9353/

Aah ok sorry mate, didn´t know it, so i don´t need it? you work on realistic colors? Thanks, i´m gonna se without ancient colours, to check your changes!

No this mod does not use ancient colours. I've redone all the faction colours myself. If you are using Ancient colours, that might overrule my changes. The colour I picked for the Boiotian league is pretty mild and I'm happy with it. Probably won't change it.

it´s not pink exactlly, but even with ancient colors ( becouse i think your overhaul don´t have this mod or similar ) i still see a dark pink/purple on boetian league units...they don´t look real, in terms of realistic colors, you have plans for that? nice to see you here again dude! =) always love your work, i want to see what you could do with that when you are come back!

Should already be changed. Certainly shouldnt be pink or violet. You're not running any other faction colour mods over this?

Always maye =) don´t worry, enjoy your free time! happy new year! and thanks for all, also one more question, could you change the pink or violet color of boetian league? it´s...horrible xd jajaja thanks!

Sorry for the slow progress folks. I'm afraid I wont have Persia unlocked and reskinned in time before I'll be leaving agan for a few days but I have made some new units that people have been asking about. Can you guess what? (http://i.imgur.com/6EOZHn5.jpg)

I'll be posting that and another unit up in not too long, then I'll be off until the 1st/2nd ish. Once I'm back I'll get back to working on Persia. I've been given a ton of assets to use by Ahiga and his buddy Kuuaik that will provide lots of new stuff for Persia. So look forward to that. I've made some progress on the Persians with their stuff already, so here's another little teaser: http://i.imgur.com/cSBNfVf.jpg

Sorry to keep you waiting. Hopefully you'll find the wait worthwile.

By the way mate, have you plans to improve this mod? i know your skills with generals modding for example haha =)

Thanks for that mod sire! that make playable this campaign ( with ancient colours of course) it´s like DEI for me, they are working in the next update and don´t have time to touch that mini-campaign, so i apreciate your work on a little bit of historical inmersion and variety on unit types, an also in models too. Thanks, if you have plans to continue this, you should contact with DEI team, show them your work, and maybe when the team revamp that mini campaign and units, etc they use your work in the supreme overhaul for historical lovers and hard players =) it´s just an idea! you are a good modder! one more time, thanks for all!

Haven't gotten around to really updating the whole file description just yet, but i'll get around to it eventually.

It doesn't overhaul the WHOLE game though as you said. I've quite consciously and properly limited the changes to things only from the WoS campaign, nothing else has been modified. But stats are still being tweaked back and fourth so nothing is set yet. Still trying to find the sweet spot for most things.