We won't lose the Workshop; it's generated money for SEGA, people buying games just to play all the various actual mods and the sort, and it's netted them an overwhelmingly positive reception for legalising and openly accepting mods. They've shot themselves in the foot enough times to entirely blow them off over the years, but they've got a winning idea here and they aren't going to just shove it away.

However, it's entirely down to the community to moderate the Workshop. As SEGA already said in the pinned topic in the main discussions, it's on our shoulders to report mods and get them automatically removed when they hit an unspecificed number of reports. They haven't left anybody to moderate it and the one representitive for the community having gone quiet, due to the Virtual HUB getting non-SEGA games and being ported to different platforms, so he's most likely being needed for more important matters elsewhere.

Well then we need to make sure these unlicenced games don't appear on the front page as popular, and keep flagging them. and if nessary,

I am not sure if I want these unlicensed games kicked out or not, but unlicensed games REuploads are starting to get more annoying. There are three "Super Mario World 64" already.

I've noticed that these reuploads are all coming from the same guy, and sometimes they have a thank you comment on them indicating that the reupload may have been requested for a different game so the person didn't have to buy another for it.

It's practicly Piracy.

It's not like these are brand new 2016 games or are even comercially available anymore. The companies wouldn't be making any money off them anyway. If you're purely afraid that the workshop might get taken away from this collection to prevent that then I can understand your concern but I doubt it... However, on moral grounds I honestly see no problem emulating any game that isn't being sold comerically anymore

Originally posted by Pinkylocks:

It's not like these are brand new 2016 games or are even comercially available anymore. The companies wouldn't be making any money off them anyway. If you're purely afraid that the workshop might get taken away from this collection to prevent that then I can understand your concern but I doubt it... However, on moral grounds I honestly see no problem emulating any game that isn't being sold comerically anymore

Plenty of older titles wind up coming back into the market thanks to services like Xbox live arcade, Playstation Store, and Nintendo e Shop (and the Wii shop). Just because it's no longer sold new physically, that doesn't mean it's not being sold digitally on any of those services I mentioned.

Besides, this workshop is for Modifications to the games sega is selling on steam, not for unreleated games to pose as mods.

"I'm disgusted at what's just happened" ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ i bet you get them as soon as you see them and then go oh i hate when people do this..

For that you are wrong. what I did was Flag them. though I suspect you're one of the piracy uploaders since you're defending this.

You know this is the problem with these community modded things. People either don't care enough about the program, or they actualy do want the crud. (and I am roaping steam Green light in with this)

Hi,

Guy you're upset about here. I'm letting people request other carts. There's no way to make a mod available for everyone. The system wasn't designed for it. Sorry for filling up the "Most Recent" section with my duplicates.

As for the actual unlicensed games, their creators were never allowed to create or sell them. That's what an unlicensed game is. Creating games and selling carts required permission from SEGA and these people didn't have that. Uploading them here isn't hurting anyone.

In addition, these unlicensed games aren't owned by their creators due to them not having permission from SEGA to create it in the first place. Spreading them around is not piracy. If anything they're gaining more attention for the products they were based on.

But games like Donkey Kong 99, Pocket Monsters. Sonic Jam 6?!?

Games that use stolen assets that were once illegaly sold.

Heck, Super Mario World 64 is just a stright port of Nintendo's Super Mario World on SNES!

It's impossible to port a game from NES or SNES to the Genesis. The platforms simply don't allow it. These unlicensed games have all been written from scratch.

As for the stolen assets, yes, most of these games contain them. They make the games fall into a legal grey area. It's iffy. That's why I'm providing my email address in case one of the rights holders of the assets wants it gone from the Workshop.

Don't forget that these games are already free to download on the web. In the case of licensed games downloading and using them is illegal but for unlicensed games no rules are in place.

Also, apart from that, Super Mario World 64 is actually terrible. It's doesn't play like Super Mario World at all. That doesn't make the assets less stolen though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_GnSEQK97g

Originally posted by ҠƗ₱ɗєҠƗ₱.ᴼᵖᵉᶰ:

It's impossible to port a game from NES or SNES to the Genesis.

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=677373441
What you said and what you uploaded say two different things

There are also the matter of Sonic Jam 6 that's a game that's really just Super Mario brothers with Sonic swaped in for Mario. And let's not forget this one:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=674888047
This is Super Mario bro.s Lost Levels from All stars, isn't it? Even if it's not, it's not even a real mod of Alex Kid.

Super Mario Bros. is a reverse engineered copy of the NES version build from scratch. Due to the consoles using completely different instruction sets there is no other way to do this. It's actually pretty impressive how faithfully it was recreated. You can tell this is not a copy of the original if you just listen to the sound.
Does it use assets without permission? Yes.
Is it piracy to spread it around? No, it's an unlicensed game.

As for Super Mario Bros. 2, that uses the graphics from All Stars but plays like a flash game. The levels have been poorly recreated and the controls are horrid.
Again, does it use assets without permission? Yes.
Is it piracy to spread it around? No, it's an unlicensed game.

Sonic Jam 6 is the same as Super Mario Bros. 2. It just has the Mario sprite swapped.

None of the games I have uploaded used Alex Kid to create the actual mod. It's the first item in the list and it makes it easier to just hop in a game. There's no way to make a mod available for everyone so I decided to use Alex Kid as the default place to upload them.

I don't really think that being unlicensed automatically means it's open domain.

Hint hint, Tengen on NES.

It's just a matter of no one caring enough. Especially over Steam Workshop.

Then again, I am more annoyed by how trashy Steam Workshop ended up being than anything.
Especially when we now have not just unlicensed but just plain copies of commercial releases. Good lord.