Given the amount of iron, bauxite, food, coal being imported by the AI nations I doubt there are massive cheats on them.

I believe your statement regarding air and tank factories is incomplete. AFAIK, the AI does not try and build more aircraft than it has available aircraft production capacity (and, I guess engine capacity), it just isn't penalised if it loses capacity.

I think you are wrong on research. It does appear not to be tied to slots and it appears that it does not need to research the components for tank designs - getting the historic tank designs as soon as the chassis is researched. However, I see gaps in the research trees even for majors such as Germany - it may be getting some techs for free. However, the total number of techs researched is comparable to me as a player but it does seem to have some ahead of time military research.

The AI receives tank and air techs for free, but it has 2 fewer research slots as compensation. On higher difficulties they receive these techs up to 6 months earlier than on normal difficulty.

Everything thats feasible to implement AI for has it. If the AI receives a cheat is because its unable to cope otherwise.

If you really want an even playing field you should also behave like the AI, no micro, only battleplans, no knowledge of whats gonna happen etc etc. Considering majority of players completely stomp the AI its in a good place right now. As said many times before, feel free to join our discord and the people there will help you if you think the AI has too many advantages :D

No one on Youtube stomps BICE and they are generally upper tier HOI 4 players. In fact, most quit when they know its over. I think a lot of people say that beat BICE, but they really do not.

I do not find DISCORD helpful at all. You have to sift thru so much casual talk.

Back to my original post, I am pretty sure the AI is exempt from the Air and Tank factory limits, based on air numbers. So because of this exemption, my real question was, is the AI totally exempt from this new facet of production?

Last game I looked at what AI Germany was doing their aircraft production was consistent with the number of aircraft plants they had. It is just they had expanded that number considerably. The AI seems to build a large airforce at the expense of not having enough tanks or army equipment.

Originally posted by gmsh1964:

No one on Youtube stomps BICE and they are generally upper tier HOI 4 players. In fact, most quit when they know its over. I think a lot of people say that beat BICE, but they really do not.

I do not find DISCORD helpful at all. You have to sift thru so much casual talk.

Back to my original post, I am pretty sure the AI is exempt from the Air and Tank factory limits, based on air numbers. So because of this exemption, my real question was, is the AI totally exempt from this new facet of production?

Im sorry but youre objectively wrong. I dont even know what else to say at this point lol. If you dont want help on discord then I cant help you here either. The AI is a pushover *if you know what youre doing*. Im not saying its easy to learn or 100% intuitive, which is why im asking you to join discord so we can look at your playthrough and things that can be improved. As said before the AI adhers to the air production limit, its fair game if you loose the air war

Not sure if you are responding to me despite you quoting me. I am asking if the AI is exempt from the new BICE TEST industry changes. I have no other questions.
As far as 'objectively wrong' and laughing, what are you referring to that I am objectively wrong about?

AI interacts with the new industry stuff (power, ores etc) the same way a player does

Great, thank you.

im not a pro and i beat BICE since HOI3... but yes i also tend to decide when its over cause otherwise it gets tedious to mop up all why would you do that even... Normally 1940 RAF and Royal Navy need to be down, and then its all about BARB and how you do it, once the SU is in shambles what else is there to do, im not easily winning every game, but i dont play fully efficient min/max either anymore cause then its boring i try flavor stuff by now like aircraft carriers, medium bombers... invading turkey and that stuff...

Thats said i only play bice on normal, never went higher difficulty in Hoi4

Regarding the industry changes they are amazing and add another layer to the game which is quite enjoyable

Originally posted by gmsh1964:

No one on Youtube stomps BICE and they are generally upper tier HOI 4 players. In fact, most quit when they know its over. I think a lot of people say that beat BICE, but they really do not.

I do not find DISCORD helpful at all. You have to sift thru so much casual talk.

Back to my original post, I am pretty sure the AI is exempt from the Air and Tank factory limits, based on air numbers. So because of this exemption, my real question was, is the AI totally exempt from this new facet of production?

No one? Sure about that?

Yeah, I saw you as Japan and many of your other HOI 4 vids. But you are an elite Youtuber. Most elite youtubers do not play BICE because it does not get many reviews. Any chance you could do one as Germany.