XCOM 2
[WOTC] The Hive
JohnMcHobo 2022년 10월 25일 오후 4시 27분
Chameleon Vanish
I am fighting a few Chameleons right now (15HP each, get a free move if damaged) and I would like to know how Vanish works?
Because I have a Battle scanner equipped, and upon reloading a save tested where the damned things went after I only did 10 damage to them and I am no longer sure if they just cease to exist in game terms.
Is it like Reaper stealth or is their disappear movement range so big they run completely out of any thrown scanner range?
Overwatch seems to do nothing, so its a guaranteed 10 damage with armor rend once they show up again. Not a fan.
How does Vanish work?
(otherwise its a relly cool mod)
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ObelixDk  [개발자] 2022년 10월 25일 오후 6시 15분 
when it takes damage it goes into stealth and runs away to try and flank you.. you can prevent them from going into stealth by hitting them with fire
JohnMcHobo 2022년 10월 26일 오전 3시 04분 
So its regular Stealth, like a Ranger using Phantom, not Reaper Stealth, correct?
How high is the mobility value on that move?
ObelixDk  [개발자] 2022년 10월 26일 오후 7시 39분 
the stealth is a "true stealth" and wont be uncovered JUST by flanking. only true counter is fire or spamming battle scanners
JohnMcHobo 2024년 4월 1일 오전 5시 35분 
Necroing it because I started playing again.
That true stealth is awful.
Scanning protocol is one use, battle scanner is two uses, incendiary grenades are two uses at best. This thing spams its stealth every single turn.
If it would be stealthy like the assassin, with high mobility but a resonable chance to find it by anything else but consumables it would be fine. But as it stands once spotted it just sidesteps into a bizarro realm of teleportation only to reappear and deal unavoidable damage. And then it starts it all over again.
This is a very cool, with many outstanding designs and ideas, but the chameleon is awful. It should be the ranger chryssalid, but every time I see one I just think: "Oh, its the cheating one, time to savescum." On the mechanical level, the chameleon is just infuriating and I am fairly certain that even the game itself does not properly handle its behaviour.

edit:spelling
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TebiCake 2024년 5월 17일 오후 2시 23분 
It's invisibility, teleportation. JohnMcHobo described it deftly. I hate them. Please just delete them. Ghost grenades are also absurdly OP
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