Bots Throw Grenade/ Throwable

Originally posted by basednewb:

Bots Throw Grenade/ Throwable

There are already some mods for that. You can combine this mod with either one of those mods instead, as this mod should be able to work together with other bot mods.

Originally posted by kurochama:

Originally posted by basednewb:

Bots Throw Grenade/ Throwable

There are already some mods for that. You can combine this mod with either one of those mods instead, as this mod should be able to work together with other bot mods.

how would that even work... logically, considering what it is they'd throw
you'd think something would need reprogrammed or recoded
at least i can't remember seeing this before, probably a reason for it

Originally posted by Trunten:

Originally posted by kurochama:

There are already some mods for that. You can combine this mod with either one of those mods instead, as this mod should be able to work together with other bot mods.

how would that even work... logically, considering what it is they'd throw
you'd think something would need reprogrammed or recoded
at least i can't remember seeing this before, probably a reason for it

The script functions & netprops of L4D2 made it possible to work, actually. The steps actually look simple, but they need some coding & scripts, like:

1. Making bots detect certain items & pick them: This can use "Entities.FindBy......" variants to detect item in certain radius, & then "DoEntFire" to force them to pick those items.
   
   
2. Forcing bots to switch items: There's a script function "SwitchToItem" for this. & "Traceline" can be used to detect what bots see & decide what conditions needed for bots to switch item to throwable.
   
   
3. Forcing bots to throw throwable: This needs combined functions, like netprops "m_afButtonForced" to turn bot's fire button on-off & some bot commands like "BOT_CMD_MOVE" to temporarily prevent bots from switching item back to primary/ secondary & "BOT_CMD_RESET" to reset command after throwing a throwable

But as I said above, because there are already some mods that have this feature, I think it would be better just to use this mod together with either one of those mods instead.

Right, I know it's been done one way or another
I meant I haven't seen it too common
Maybe because it doesn't work too well

Originally posted by Trunten:

Right, I know it's been done one way or another
I meant I haven't seen it too common
Maybe because it doesn't work too well

Yeah, I think some bugs are still unavoidable, because it's basically just a player-made feature. It would be different if Valve officially made this feature. For example, there's a small bug like, on some mods, bots throw molotov just under other survivor's feet or their own feet, or pretty close in a closed area & that causes a serious problem on expert as the fire damage is high on expert. Unlike players, bots can't detect the conditions of their surroundings whether it's safe to throw a throwable or not. So, so far some bot mods that I ever tried usually only make bots throw throwable with only some adjustments that are still simple enough. I also haven't found a bot mod that can make some advanced conditions on bots when throwing throwable yet, to make them very close to real players.

Making them go trougth the map automaticly instead of always following you, kinda like a real player

Originally posted by ロンペクロス:

Making them go trougth the map automaticly instead of always following you, kinda like a real player

That sounds like a good idea. Probably I can add some bot's auto-leading feature next time.

Originally posted by kurochama:

Originally posted by ロンペクロス:

Making them go trougth the map automaticly instead of always following you, kinda like a real player

That sounds like a good idea. Probably I can add some bot's auto-leading feature next time.

kay

Excuse me, can this Cruel Robot be used in combination with the Angry Robot?

Originally posted by 君を三年待つ.:

Excuse me, can this Cruel Robot be used in combination with the Angry Robot?

Yes, it can, but probably there are some features that you might need to disable as they have similar functions, like "Cruel Level" is similar to the feature on "Angry Bots" that controls angry level so disable either one of them.

Which attack is stronger, cruelty or anger? Excuse me, why does the frame rate drop quickly when I hit a special infected person with an angry robot, and then the frame rate will be restored after the death of the special infected person?

Originally posted by 君を三年待つ.:

Which attack is stronger, cruelty or anger? Excuse me, why does the frame rate drop quickly when I hit a special infected person with an angry robot, and then the frame rate will be restored after the death of the special infected person?

It's probably almost the same. On "Cruel Bots" mod, the bot's cruelty is controlled by "Cruel Level", "Berserk Mode", & "Threat Detection Range".

As for frame rate problem on special infected, I have no idea, as that never happened to me before.

Will these two modules conflict with this [Advanced Bot AI]

Especially when you play witch, Are the threats of cruel robots and angry robots the same code? Do you want to turn off one of them?