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CHOO CHOO 26 Jun @ 6:23am
Gunpowder Troop Branches
I really like the gunpowder units overall, but there are a few balance questions I have.

1) When using Sakai ashigaru, the Skilled Ashigaru Gunner is on the same tier as the Teppo Ashigaru, but has 80 Guns skill VS 50, and can be promoted to the vastly superior Ashigaru Marksman. It's true that the Teppo Ashigaru has slightly better melee stats, but that hardly seems worth the downsides. What is the purpose of the Teppo Ashigaru?

2) Saikai Pistol Cavalry seem to universally outperform Skilled Sakai Horse Gunner Cavalry. They're at the same point within the troop tree, their guns have identical stats in spite of their different names and appearances (which makes their equipment functionally identical), but the Sakai Pistol Cavalry has better stats across the board. Why would anyone ever use the Skilled Sakai Horse Gunner Cavalry?
Last edited by CHOO CHOO; 26 Jun @ 6:26am
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DriedDimSum 7 Jul @ 5:46pm 
btw, what the point of having to use Melee units at all if using any range matchlock rifles mount with horses especially with lances.
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Guardian of Blind 7 Jul @ 6:34pm 
Answering the first question, possibly, the ashigaru gunner line is unique for Sakai culture, that is probably why they outperform the teppo ashigaru which anyone can get. So for effectiveness reason there really is no reason to use them, but I often end up using them when recruiting from prisoners or recruiting whatever is available in towns during tough wars.
As for the cavalry, would love to know it myself.
And as for why use melee units at all - to not get wiped out by enemy cavalry. Unless you can somehow train so many gunner cav consistently to always have numbers available. But they take so long to train, cost two different horse types to upgrade, that by time they reach good levels, some get shot by cheap enemy gunners. So again - logistics.

Edit: Guns of pistol and gun cavalry are not the same, just checked. Gunner one has 100 more damage and more missile speed, which at really long ranges means heavily armored enemies will die vs not dying.
Last edited by Guardian of Blind; 7 Jul @ 7:37pm
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