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MightyBalian 6 Jul, 2020 @ 12:18pm

Hey there, Sentinels

Hope this doesn't break any rules here but I thought you guys would appreciate this. I started a group yesterday with somewhat of a similar premise to yours except going after the Tag system instead. Inaccurate tags are so annoying to me (especially now that the search function is becoming better) because it tends to bury legitimately good games under mountains of shovelware (this is especially prevalent in the Psychological Horror tag) or just straight up advertises nonexistant features (for example, RE7 is tagged as both Multiplayer and VR despite having neither). Only currently have 2 members, so I thought I'd reach out to you guys, in case any of you would be interested in joining. Here's the link, just in case:

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/groups/tagcrusaders

And if this does break any rules or is just too annoying because of the self-promotion aspect, then just delete it. I wont be offended. lol

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Mutant Overlord 6 Jul, 2020 @ 12:20pm

Ambitious but foolish....................... lol

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MightyBalian 6 Jul, 2020 @ 12:23pm

Originally posted by MUTANT OVERLORD:
Ambitious but foolish....................... lol

Most likely. lol. I dont have high hopes, but I at least wanna try.

Mellow_Online1

6 Jul, 2020 @ 12:24pm

Hey there Balianthemighty

I'm happy with the post existing, happy to help out people with similar goals and ideas in mind of wanting to create a better storefront and the sort.

Wishing you the best of luck with your group and I'll try to keep a close eye on it myself as well!

talgaby 6 Jul, 2020 @ 12:25pm

Tags are trickier since the entire user base can contribute and they tend to do so in larger numbers. Gods know how many times we tried to remove the "co-op" and "space" tags from Fallout New Vegas, a strictly single-player game, but they always came back. (Then again, Bethesda posted it as a leaderboard game, despite having no score system or any online component for any launcher to store any kind of competitive data.)

MightyBalian 6 Jul, 2020 @ 12:32pm

Originally posted by talgaby:
Tags are trickier since the entire user base can contribute and they tend to do so in larger numbers. Gods know how many times we tried to remove the "co-op" and "space" tags from Fallout New Vegas, a strictly single-player game, but they always came back. (Then again, Bethesda posted it as a leaderboard game, despite having no score system or any online component for any launcher to store any kind of competitive data.)

Ah, so you guys have actually attempted this before? I mean, I'm already basically assuming that little to nothing will come of it but I still feel like trying.

Kimchi Tea 6 Jul, 2020 @ 1:08pm

Developers can remove tags from the store page, right? Can they see when people flag tags, or does that just go to Valve moderators (assuming a human sees it at all)?

Eviction Notice 6 Jul, 2020 @ 3:14pm

Yeah, looks like an uphill battle. Valve basically boasts about how you can "Tag anything, your way" and "apply tags to that you think are relevant to that title." Doesn't seem like they care if the tags are accurate or not.
https://steamhost.cn/tag

Q. What if I don't agree with a tag that has become popular for my game?
A. Tags can be a good indicator of when there is a mismatch between how you perceive your game, and how your game is perceived by customers. Often this is simply because there is some piece of information regarding the game that customers feel is missing from the store page.

talgaby 6 Jul, 2020 @ 9:17pm

Tags are fully automated with no human interaction. The publishers can freely assign them, of course.

I am not saying the group will be pointless but that it is an uphill battle, so be prepared for small victories only. Tags can be removed from smaller games that are not too much in the limelight. Although trying to assign correct tags to small indie games with only "Indie" and "Simulation" on them is also a nice undertaking.

MightyBalian 7 Jul, 2020 @ 11:15am

Originally posted by talgaby:
Although trying to assign correct tags to small indie games with only "Indie" and "Simulation" on them is also a nice undertaking.

That's not a bad idea, actually. Might have to update our bio.

Maggerama 21 Jul, 2020 @ 9:47pm

Good. I'm in. Irrelevant tags piss me off every day.
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/groups/CPANDC/discussions/0/2521401367307082831/ by the way, you can help these guys out. They undertook the same endeavor recently, but only with point and clicks.

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