XCOM 2
[WOTC] Tactical Options
186 kommenttia
#3DD80220 10.5. klo 22.08 
Something in this mod is breaking the Chosen Sarcophagus Room.
The custscene doesnt trigger only when this mod is on, and i get stuck in the room forever.
Blabba754 8.12.2024 klo 5.10 
Every now and then i get warnings about a pending state not added to the history and "vip loot" being mentioned.
The less warnings there are , the better it would be. Please have a look at it.
Bane of Kree 1.12.2024 klo 4.35 
it IS posibble to use updated version of system infiltration on top of this, you just have to uncheck system infiltration in mod in mcm and the other one will take over.
tommeoh 7.5.2024 klo 5.06 
BUG: System Infiltration + hack ENemy Protocol increase your hacking skill permanent
Q 4.5.2024 klo 20.00 
is there a way to add an interact w the Fulton Harness to have the ability to extract at range?

if not how would one go about adding that function in?

I am new and looking to learn so I could do it myself I just don't understand where to begin to look for a starting point.

if anybody can help: plz - i wanna do it i just have no idea how to start
DeBlue 23.4.2024 klo 12.27 
So many great stuff with this but one gripe is that the smart overwatch ability makes it so that a soldier can overwatch despite using a weapon that requries two actions, in this case it's the cannon from the A Better Barracks TLE change. So is there a way to edit the config or something to disable this from the cannon entirely? Like for the Sniper Rifle and other weapons?nn
BTAxis 9.3.2024 klo 3.19 
Still love this mod, but it uses an older version of System Infiltration and it's not possible to use the updated version of that on top of Tactical Options. That's a shame, because as far as I know this mod is the only one that provides smart overwatch and gremlin loot for WotC.
Tide Pod Connoisseur 13.2.2024 klo 17.21 
if you are still active just so you know for some reason the interact with objective while in stealth option isnt working
Tide Pod Connoisseur 13.2.2024 klo 17.19 
@warrior250 you can just disable every other feature in the config menu
Warrior250 8.11.2023 klo 7.49 
Any chance for just the Smart Overwatch port as a standalone release?
... 8.1.2023 klo 21.48 
Gremlins Grab Loot could only be used once. I could not use gremlin to grab loots for a second time.
If I used gremlin to grab loot, I could not do remote hacking either
ROMDEAU 21.10.2022 klo 3.46 
Hello! Is it possible to add a feature to Smart Overwatch so that your soldiers start shooting from stealth?
d_valroth 12.2.2022 klo 14.20 
That's a long time issue with the original mod. The game doesn't have a concept of temporary hacking, so you just have to not abuse it.
Anon38 12.2.2022 klo 13.26 
if you use system Infiltration multiple times your Specialist's hack skill increases permanently
Larsen 24.11.2021 klo 11.14 
Tactical Overwatch dont seem to trigger with Arsonist Class (Immolator + Chemthrower weapon).
o_siyeza  [tekijä] 18.4.2021 klo 4.20 
Unfortunately, there may be mods that confict with this one. There is nothing I can do about it.
Hyperdragon1701 16.4.2021 klo 14.35 
Im having a issue with the Tactical Overwatch and the Gun Kata Ability of the Akimbo Mod. It seems that having any character with Gun Kata somehow allows the soldier to take unlimited Overwatches. I cant say for certain its specifically an issue with this mod however the i get the "Tactical Overwatch" Flyover whenever it happens.
o_siyeza  [tekijä] 12.4.2021 klo 16.08 
I think i will just remove it in the next version. It simply does not work as it should.
WaldoTheRanger 11.4.2021 klo 23.37 
oh.
well perfect then.
d_valroth 11.4.2021 klo 20.02 
The AI always knows your soldiers positions from turn 1. It's just programmed to pretend it doesn't while you're concealed. You can test it in vanilla by sneaking close to an objective and watch as one of the enemy coincidentally patrols in such a way as to reveal them. Then reload and make a different move and they will just keep coincidentally finding you, because they're programmed to drop the act once you're at the target.
WaldoTheRanger 11.4.2021 klo 19.10 
would be jank as hell, but at least it would be something.
the hard part would probably be removing knowledge of your soldiers positions from the Ai.

of course just spitballing here. I don't know anything about the code.
WaldoTheRanger 11.4.2021 klo 19.03 
when you come back to this, if you could either remove it for better compatibility with Iridars, or somehow fix the conflict when disabled, that would be amazing.

Also I noticed you mention the possibility of removing the "objectives don't break stealth"
Please don't. It's amazing when it works, even if it doesn't do so fully.
For example, it allows you to hack the door to an advent van without breaking stealth, then sneak up and open the door the next turn, giving you either half or your full turn to sprint back to evac depending on how you time it with patrols.
(i.e., solo specialist missions. which is epic, and sometimes necessary in lw)

also would it be possible to say, after concealment is broken, have a variable that denotes if it was broken from an objective or not, then force the "toggleconcealment" console command right afterwards if it was?
WaldoTheRanger 11.4.2021 klo 13.02 
so, for some reason, when using this with lwotc, mod jam, and system infiltration 2.2, your mod makes the si 2.2 ability disappear even when it's completely disabled, in config and mod menu.
unfortunately that's all the info i've got right now. hope it helps somehow.
Dragonlord 4.4.2021 klo 8.52 
Yeah I just rebuilded the character and signed on the system infiltration of iridar. Apparently he fixed that. Will see.
d_valroth 3.4.2021 klo 14.27 
That's always been an issue, even with the original mod. The game itself never checks if the stat has a bonus applied to it because in vanilla it never can. You just have to self-police.
Dragonlord 3.4.2021 klo 14.22 
So apparently the hack bonus i get with system infiltration is permanent... I will rebuild again the character i guess and remove that future. It was a great future though
WaldoTheRanger 2.4.2021 klo 1.57 
I'm so sad it took me this long to find this beauty.
Thanks a million.
Rubezagel 15.3.2021 klo 6.38 
Very interesting stuff in this mod, thanks a lot!
I'd really love one additional feature though: besides "OverwatchAimBonus"
"AllowCrit" there should be a "OverwatchCritPenalty" as well.
With the right weapon, upgrades, range, abilities and so on crit chance can be very high... it would be nice to be able to crit on tactical overwatch, but I think having the full crit chance might be too powerful.
OverwatchCritPenalty it could be a percentage of the normal crit chance, so every weapon keeps some crit chance. Or a just a flat penalty, so that only crit specialists would keep a bit of crit chance.

Question to everyone who plays with tactical overwatch - how does it work it practice? Do enemies know where you placed the cone and will they try to avoid it?
Lung 4.3.2021 klo 18.43 
Oh also something I noticed, I should report. Interacting with advent cargo crates (you mark them, then skyranger picks them up or the advent drop ship does when they're red to be extracted by advent.) you will be spotted and unconcealed. The game will report you're concealed but aliens will still shoot at you and everyone else.
Lung 4.3.2021 klo 6.58 
Well otherwise from the missing images which are just unfixable it seems :ranger: this is a pretty good compact mod of, other mods.

Good job :firstCommit:
o_siyeza  [tekijä] 4.3.2021 klo 2.14 
Yes, gremlin action is missing an image. Unfortunately the way the game is done, you cannot simply add an image there.
Narlindir 3.3.2021 klo 15.43 
can confirm ther gremlin missing image have the same issue
Lung 3.3.2021 klo 15.17 
Gremlin loot is missing an image
o_siyeza  [tekijä] 22.2.2021 klo 3.35 
Yes, unfortunately it seems that the concealment option does not work properly. And the root of the issue seems to be somewhere modders cant really touch. So Im afraid the only solution is to not use this feature, I may actually removing it when I have time.
d_valroth 21.2.2021 klo 9.56 
@Feezec that seems to be a deeply coded vanilla mechanic. Despite introducing concealment in this game, Friaxis REALLY didn't want anyone to use it. The whole game cheats to pull you out of concealment as soon as it can, and if you somehow make it to the objective while still concealed, it just flat out strips it from you. I guess the idea is supposed to be that taking the item triggered an alarm or something. Sometimes this mod stops it, sometimes it doesn't. I'm guessing it depends on how the individual objectives trigger it. I've had half my squad lose it and half keep it sometimes.
Narlindir 21.2.2021 klo 2.21 
@feezec isnt that vanilla behavior?
I thought I read something like that on ufopedia
Feezec 20.2.2021 klo 22.58 
Bug report: interacting with objectives breaks concealment.

I started a Blacksite mission through the Skirmish menu.
My concealed Reaper interacted with the Vial.
My Reaper lost concealment and the nearby enemies activated.
My Reaper's Shadow ability was disabled due to carrying the objective item.

The only other active mods are Mod Config Menu and XCOM Highlander.
o_siyeza  [tekijä] 25.1.2021 klo 4.55 
Yes, normal overwatch has a -30% aim penalty. As in this overwatch you are ready and focussed in a specific area, there is no aim penalty, like in a regular shot.

This was the idea behind it. A stronguer more accurate overwatch, at the cost of needing to plan where you are overwatching.

You can always take the mode and tune it to your liking anyway ;)
d_valroth 24.1.2021 klo 18.23 
Isn't normal overwatch at -30% though? +0 is a buff in that case.

I always thought the point was to prevent some unit you don't care about from eating the overwatch before the thing you really need to kill comes at you.
Narlindir 24.1.2021 klo 17.38 
I read again on teh original mod page
and they specifically state a +0 to the bonus with the option to give on in the ini files
lol
so this is actually just a worse version or "tactical" if you prefer
missed opportunity imo
Narlindir 23.1.2021 klo 12.01 
actually
this is amazing for shotguns
they are nover hitting anything beyond 10 tiles anyway
Narlindir 23.1.2021 klo 11.19 
aha!
thats pretty neat then
so its a free +20 aim or so in close range
thank you very much :D
o_siyeza  [tekijä] 23.1.2021 klo 7.12 
So If I remember correctly, instead of a regular overwatch, is an overwatch which will only react to the enemy actions in the cone of fire. The benefit is that it does not apply the overwatch aim penalty (because you are focussing in a zone of control). That is the idea.
Narlindir 22.1.2021 klo 16.40 
what exactly does the "Tactical Overwatch" do?
does it give a reaction against all in the zone?
cuz thats not what i experienced lol

or is it only to target a specific area for "tactical reasons"?
BlazinHothead 21.12.2020 klo 15.13 
If you update the mod could you add the following options from the Various Options mod?

2. Smoke Grenade Grants Xcom Concealment, enemies will still get the Vanilla bonuses

10. Carry Corpses - Soldiers are able to carry non-xcom corpses, EVAC-ing with a corpse gives the corpse as a loot item

11. Evac Carry Only - Soldiers are able to also only EVAC what they're carrying and remain in the mission themselves
Note : That there's no animation for corpses EVAC'ing on their own, so they will just disappear instead of animate
o_siyeza  [tekijä] 13.11.2020 klo 12.29 
@kerlaeda76, I hope I will pick up the mod again in the future, but by all means if you need anything, friend me and PM me. Also you have my permission to do whatever you want with it, and upload your own version. :).
ПРОЛЕТАРИЙ 11.11.2020 klo 0.32 
This mod is in dire need of an update
Dragon32 9.11.2020 klo 7.13 
@kerlaeda76
Download the mod. Look in SRC and Content directories.
kerlaeda76 9.11.2020 klo 6.44 
Good day. If you are not working further with your wonderful mod, you can give a link to the mod's resources. thanks
o_siyeza  [tekijä] 29.10.2020 klo 6.37 
@13Crusader13(TWW2019Top8Winner), honestly i have been out of modding for a while now. I still intend to make something more with this mod Includding improve the hacking, and srteamline some things that not work as good, but I really dont have the time now. Also feel free to ask me for the source files if you are interested in tunning the mod yourselves.