XCOM 2
[WOTC] Tactical Options
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#3DD80220 10 May @ 22:08 
Something in this mod is breaking the Chosen Sarcophagus Room.
The custscene doesnt trigger only when this mod is on, and i get stuck in the room forever.
Blabba754 8 Ara 2024 @ 5:10 
Every now and then i get warnings about a pending state not added to the history and "vip loot" being mentioned.
The less warnings there are , the better it would be. Please have a look at it.
Bane of Kree 1 Ara 2024 @ 4:35 
it IS posibble to use updated version of system infiltration on top of this, you just have to uncheck system infiltration in mod in mcm and the other one will take over.
tommeoh 7 May 2024 @ 5:06 
BUG: System Infiltration + hack ENemy Protocol increase your hacking skill permanent
Q 4 May 2024 @ 20:00 
is there a way to add an interact w the Fulton Harness to have the ability to extract at range?

if not how would one go about adding that function in?

I am new and looking to learn so I could do it myself I just don't understand where to begin to look for a starting point.

if anybody can help: plz - i wanna do it i just have no idea how to start
DeBlue 23 Nis 2024 @ 12:27 
So many great stuff with this but one gripe is that the smart overwatch ability makes it so that a soldier can overwatch despite using a weapon that requries two actions, in this case it's the cannon from the A Better Barracks TLE change. So is there a way to edit the config or something to disable this from the cannon entirely? Like for the Sniper Rifle and other weapons?nn
BTAxis 9 Mar 2024 @ 3:19 
Still love this mod, but it uses an older version of System Infiltration and it's not possible to use the updated version of that on top of Tactical Options. That's a shame, because as far as I know this mod is the only one that provides smart overwatch and gremlin loot for WotC.
Tide Pod Connoisseur 13 Şub 2024 @ 17:21 
if you are still active just so you know for some reason the interact with objective while in stealth option isnt working
Tide Pod Connoisseur 13 Şub 2024 @ 17:19 
@warrior250 you can just disable every other feature in the config menu
Warrior250 8 Kas 2023 @ 7:49 
Any chance for just the Smart Overwatch port as a standalone release?
... 8 Oca 2023 @ 21:48 
Gremlins Grab Loot could only be used once. I could not use gremlin to grab loots for a second time.
If I used gremlin to grab loot, I could not do remote hacking either
ROMDEAU 21 Eki 2022 @ 3:46 
Hello! Is it possible to add a feature to Smart Overwatch so that your soldiers start shooting from stealth?
d_valroth 12 Şub 2022 @ 14:20 
That's a long time issue with the original mod. The game doesn't have a concept of temporary hacking, so you just have to not abuse it.
Anon38 12 Şub 2022 @ 13:26 
if you use system Infiltration multiple times your Specialist's hack skill increases permanently
Larsen 24 Kas 2021 @ 11:14 
Tactical Overwatch dont seem to trigger with Arsonist Class (Immolator + Chemthrower weapon).
o_siyeza  [yaratıcı] 18 Nis 2021 @ 4:20 
Unfortunately, there may be mods that confict with this one. There is nothing I can do about it.
Hyperdragon1701 16 Nis 2021 @ 14:35 
Im having a issue with the Tactical Overwatch and the Gun Kata Ability of the Akimbo Mod. It seems that having any character with Gun Kata somehow allows the soldier to take unlimited Overwatches. I cant say for certain its specifically an issue with this mod however the i get the "Tactical Overwatch" Flyover whenever it happens.
o_siyeza  [yaratıcı] 12 Nis 2021 @ 16:08 
I think i will just remove it in the next version. It simply does not work as it should.
WaldoTheRanger 11 Nis 2021 @ 23:37 
oh.
well perfect then.
d_valroth 11 Nis 2021 @ 20:02 
The AI always knows your soldiers positions from turn 1. It's just programmed to pretend it doesn't while you're concealed. You can test it in vanilla by sneaking close to an objective and watch as one of the enemy coincidentally patrols in such a way as to reveal them. Then reload and make a different move and they will just keep coincidentally finding you, because they're programmed to drop the act once you're at the target.
WaldoTheRanger 11 Nis 2021 @ 19:10 
would be jank as hell, but at least it would be something.
the hard part would probably be removing knowledge of your soldiers positions from the Ai.

of course just spitballing here. I don't know anything about the code.
WaldoTheRanger 11 Nis 2021 @ 19:03 
when you come back to this, if you could either remove it for better compatibility with Iridars, or somehow fix the conflict when disabled, that would be amazing.

Also I noticed you mention the possibility of removing the "objectives don't break stealth"
Please don't. It's amazing when it works, even if it doesn't do so fully.
For example, it allows you to hack the door to an advent van without breaking stealth, then sneak up and open the door the next turn, giving you either half or your full turn to sprint back to evac depending on how you time it with patrols.
(i.e., solo specialist missions. which is epic, and sometimes necessary in lw)

also would it be possible to say, after concealment is broken, have a variable that denotes if it was broken from an objective or not, then force the "toggleconcealment" console command right afterwards if it was?
WaldoTheRanger 11 Nis 2021 @ 13:02 
so, for some reason, when using this with lwotc, mod jam, and system infiltration 2.2, your mod makes the si 2.2 ability disappear even when it's completely disabled, in config and mod menu.
unfortunately that's all the info i've got right now. hope it helps somehow.
Dragonlord 4 Nis 2021 @ 8:52 
Yeah I just rebuilded the character and signed on the system infiltration of iridar. Apparently he fixed that. Will see.
d_valroth 3 Nis 2021 @ 14:27 
That's always been an issue, even with the original mod. The game itself never checks if the stat has a bonus applied to it because in vanilla it never can. You just have to self-police.
Dragonlord 3 Nis 2021 @ 14:22 
So apparently the hack bonus i get with system infiltration is permanent... I will rebuild again the character i guess and remove that future. It was a great future though
WaldoTheRanger 2 Nis 2021 @ 1:57 
I'm so sad it took me this long to find this beauty.
Thanks a million.
Rubezagel 15 Mar 2021 @ 6:38 
Very interesting stuff in this mod, thanks a lot!
I'd really love one additional feature though: besides "OverwatchAimBonus"
"AllowCrit" there should be a "OverwatchCritPenalty" as well.
With the right weapon, upgrades, range, abilities and so on crit chance can be very high... it would be nice to be able to crit on tactical overwatch, but I think having the full crit chance might be too powerful.
OverwatchCritPenalty it could be a percentage of the normal crit chance, so every weapon keeps some crit chance. Or a just a flat penalty, so that only crit specialists would keep a bit of crit chance.

Question to everyone who plays with tactical overwatch - how does it work it practice? Do enemies know where you placed the cone and will they try to avoid it?
Lung 4 Mar 2021 @ 18:43 
Oh also something I noticed, I should report. Interacting with advent cargo crates (you mark them, then skyranger picks them up or the advent drop ship does when they're red to be extracted by advent.) you will be spotted and unconcealed. The game will report you're concealed but aliens will still shoot at you and everyone else.
Lung 4 Mar 2021 @ 6:58 
Well otherwise from the missing images which are just unfixable it seems :ranger: this is a pretty good compact mod of, other mods.

Good job :firstCommit:
o_siyeza  [yaratıcı] 4 Mar 2021 @ 2:14 
Yes, gremlin action is missing an image. Unfortunately the way the game is done, you cannot simply add an image there.
Narlindir 3 Mar 2021 @ 15:43 
can confirm ther gremlin missing image have the same issue
Lung 3 Mar 2021 @ 15:17 
Gremlin loot is missing an image
o_siyeza  [yaratıcı] 22 Şub 2021 @ 3:35 
Yes, unfortunately it seems that the concealment option does not work properly. And the root of the issue seems to be somewhere modders cant really touch. So Im afraid the only solution is to not use this feature, I may actually removing it when I have time.
d_valroth 21 Şub 2021 @ 9:56 
@Feezec that seems to be a deeply coded vanilla mechanic. Despite introducing concealment in this game, Friaxis REALLY didn't want anyone to use it. The whole game cheats to pull you out of concealment as soon as it can, and if you somehow make it to the objective while still concealed, it just flat out strips it from you. I guess the idea is supposed to be that taking the item triggered an alarm or something. Sometimes this mod stops it, sometimes it doesn't. I'm guessing it depends on how the individual objectives trigger it. I've had half my squad lose it and half keep it sometimes.
Narlindir 21 Şub 2021 @ 2:21 
@feezec isnt that vanilla behavior?
I thought I read something like that on ufopedia
Feezec 20 Şub 2021 @ 22:58 
Bug report: interacting with objectives breaks concealment.

I started a Blacksite mission through the Skirmish menu.
My concealed Reaper interacted with the Vial.
My Reaper lost concealment and the nearby enemies activated.
My Reaper's Shadow ability was disabled due to carrying the objective item.

The only other active mods are Mod Config Menu and XCOM Highlander.
o_siyeza  [yaratıcı] 25 Oca 2021 @ 4:55 
Yes, normal overwatch has a -30% aim penalty. As in this overwatch you are ready and focussed in a specific area, there is no aim penalty, like in a regular shot.

This was the idea behind it. A stronguer more accurate overwatch, at the cost of needing to plan where you are overwatching.

You can always take the mode and tune it to your liking anyway ;)
d_valroth 24 Oca 2021 @ 18:23 
Isn't normal overwatch at -30% though? +0 is a buff in that case.

I always thought the point was to prevent some unit you don't care about from eating the overwatch before the thing you really need to kill comes at you.
Narlindir 24 Oca 2021 @ 17:38 
I read again on teh original mod page
and they specifically state a +0 to the bonus with the option to give on in the ini files
lol
so this is actually just a worse version or "tactical" if you prefer
missed opportunity imo
Narlindir 23 Oca 2021 @ 12:01 
actually
this is amazing for shotguns
they are nover hitting anything beyond 10 tiles anyway
Narlindir 23 Oca 2021 @ 11:19 
aha!
thats pretty neat then
so its a free +20 aim or so in close range
thank you very much :D
o_siyeza  [yaratıcı] 23 Oca 2021 @ 7:12 
So If I remember correctly, instead of a regular overwatch, is an overwatch which will only react to the enemy actions in the cone of fire. The benefit is that it does not apply the overwatch aim penalty (because you are focussing in a zone of control). That is the idea.
Narlindir 22 Oca 2021 @ 16:40 
what exactly does the "Tactical Overwatch" do?
does it give a reaction against all in the zone?
cuz thats not what i experienced lol

or is it only to target a specific area for "tactical reasons"?
BlazinHothead 21 Ara 2020 @ 15:13 
If you update the mod could you add the following options from the Various Options mod?

2. Smoke Grenade Grants Xcom Concealment, enemies will still get the Vanilla bonuses

10. Carry Corpses - Soldiers are able to carry non-xcom corpses, EVAC-ing with a corpse gives the corpse as a loot item

11. Evac Carry Only - Soldiers are able to also only EVAC what they're carrying and remain in the mission themselves
Note : That there's no animation for corpses EVAC'ing on their own, so they will just disappear instead of animate
o_siyeza  [yaratıcı] 13 Kas 2020 @ 12:29 
@kerlaeda76, I hope I will pick up the mod again in the future, but by all means if you need anything, friend me and PM me. Also you have my permission to do whatever you want with it, and upload your own version. :).
ПРОЛЕТАРИЙ 11 Kas 2020 @ 0:32 
This mod is in dire need of an update
Dragon32 9 Kas 2020 @ 7:13 
@kerlaeda76
Download the mod. Look in SRC and Content directories.
kerlaeda76 9 Kas 2020 @ 6:44 
Good day. If you are not working further with your wonderful mod, you can give a link to the mod's resources. thanks
o_siyeza  [yaratıcı] 29 Eki 2020 @ 6:37 
@13Crusader13(TWW2019Top8Winner), honestly i have been out of modding for a while now. I still intend to make something more with this mod Includding improve the hacking, and srteamline some things that not work as good, but I really dont have the time now. Also feel free to ask me for the source files if you are interested in tunning the mod yourselves.