XCOM 2
[WOTC] Tactical Options
186 Comments
#3DD80220 10 May @ 10:08pm 
Something in this mod is breaking the Chosen Sarcophagus Room.
The custscene doesnt trigger only when this mod is on, and i get stuck in the room forever.
Blabba754 8 Dec, 2024 @ 5:10am 
Every now and then i get warnings about a pending state not added to the history and "vip loot" being mentioned.
The less warnings there are , the better it would be. Please have a look at it.
Bane of Kree 1 Dec, 2024 @ 4:35am 
it IS posibble to use updated version of system infiltration on top of this, you just have to uncheck system infiltration in mod in mcm and the other one will take over.
tommeoh 7 May, 2024 @ 5:06am 
BUG: System Infiltration + hack ENemy Protocol increase your hacking skill permanent
Q 4 May, 2024 @ 8:00pm 
is there a way to add an interact w the Fulton Harness to have the ability to extract at range?

if not how would one go about adding that function in?

I am new and looking to learn so I could do it myself I just don't understand where to begin to look for a starting point.

if anybody can help: plz - i wanna do it i just have no idea how to start
DeBlue 23 Apr, 2024 @ 12:27pm 
So many great stuff with this but one gripe is that the smart overwatch ability makes it so that a soldier can overwatch despite using a weapon that requries two actions, in this case it's the cannon from the A Better Barracks TLE change. So is there a way to edit the config or something to disable this from the cannon entirely? Like for the Sniper Rifle and other weapons?nn
BTAxis 9 Mar, 2024 @ 3:19am 
Still love this mod, but it uses an older version of System Infiltration and it's not possible to use the updated version of that on top of Tactical Options. That's a shame, because as far as I know this mod is the only one that provides smart overwatch and gremlin loot for WotC.
Tide Pod Connoisseur 13 Feb, 2024 @ 5:21pm 
if you are still active just so you know for some reason the interact with objective while in stealth option isnt working
Tide Pod Connoisseur 13 Feb, 2024 @ 5:19pm 
@warrior250 you can just disable every other feature in the config menu
Warrior250 8 Nov, 2023 @ 7:49am 
Any chance for just the Smart Overwatch port as a standalone release?
... 8 Jan, 2023 @ 9:48pm 
Gremlins Grab Loot could only be used once. I could not use gremlin to grab loots for a second time.
If I used gremlin to grab loot, I could not do remote hacking either
ROMDEAU 21 Oct, 2022 @ 3:46am 
Hello! Is it possible to add a feature to Smart Overwatch so that your soldiers start shooting from stealth?
d_valroth 12 Feb, 2022 @ 2:20pm 
That's a long time issue with the original mod. The game doesn't have a concept of temporary hacking, so you just have to not abuse it.
Anon38 12 Feb, 2022 @ 1:26pm 
if you use system Infiltration multiple times your Specialist's hack skill increases permanently
Larsen 24 Nov, 2021 @ 11:14am 
Tactical Overwatch dont seem to trigger with Arsonist Class (Immolator + Chemthrower weapon).
o_siyeza  [author] 18 Apr, 2021 @ 4:20am 
Unfortunately, there may be mods that confict with this one. There is nothing I can do about it.
Hyperdragon1701 16 Apr, 2021 @ 2:35pm 
Im having a issue with the Tactical Overwatch and the Gun Kata Ability of the Akimbo Mod. It seems that having any character with Gun Kata somehow allows the soldier to take unlimited Overwatches. I cant say for certain its specifically an issue with this mod however the i get the "Tactical Overwatch" Flyover whenever it happens.
o_siyeza  [author] 12 Apr, 2021 @ 4:08pm 
I think i will just remove it in the next version. It simply does not work as it should.
WaldoTheRanger 11 Apr, 2021 @ 11:37pm 
oh.
well perfect then.
d_valroth 11 Apr, 2021 @ 8:02pm 
The AI always knows your soldiers positions from turn 1. It's just programmed to pretend it doesn't while you're concealed. You can test it in vanilla by sneaking close to an objective and watch as one of the enemy coincidentally patrols in such a way as to reveal them. Then reload and make a different move and they will just keep coincidentally finding you, because they're programmed to drop the act once you're at the target.
WaldoTheRanger 11 Apr, 2021 @ 7:10pm 
would be jank as hell, but at least it would be something.
the hard part would probably be removing knowledge of your soldiers positions from the Ai.

of course just spitballing here. I don't know anything about the code.
WaldoTheRanger 11 Apr, 2021 @ 7:03pm 
when you come back to this, if you could either remove it for better compatibility with Iridars, or somehow fix the conflict when disabled, that would be amazing.

Also I noticed you mention the possibility of removing the "objectives don't break stealth"
Please don't. It's amazing when it works, even if it doesn't do so fully.
For example, it allows you to hack the door to an advent van without breaking stealth, then sneak up and open the door the next turn, giving you either half or your full turn to sprint back to evac depending on how you time it with patrols.
(i.e., solo specialist missions. which is epic, and sometimes necessary in lw)

also would it be possible to say, after concealment is broken, have a variable that denotes if it was broken from an objective or not, then force the "toggleconcealment" console command right afterwards if it was?
WaldoTheRanger 11 Apr, 2021 @ 1:02pm 
so, for some reason, when using this with lwotc, mod jam, and system infiltration 2.2, your mod makes the si 2.2 ability disappear even when it's completely disabled, in config and mod menu.
unfortunately that's all the info i've got right now. hope it helps somehow.
Dragonlord 4 Apr, 2021 @ 8:52am 
Yeah I just rebuilded the character and signed on the system infiltration of iridar. Apparently he fixed that. Will see.
d_valroth 3 Apr, 2021 @ 2:27pm 
That's always been an issue, even with the original mod. The game itself never checks if the stat has a bonus applied to it because in vanilla it never can. You just have to self-police.
Dragonlord 3 Apr, 2021 @ 2:22pm 
So apparently the hack bonus i get with system infiltration is permanent... I will rebuild again the character i guess and remove that future. It was a great future though
WaldoTheRanger 2 Apr, 2021 @ 1:57am 
I'm so sad it took me this long to find this beauty.
Thanks a million.
Rubezagel 15 Mar, 2021 @ 6:38am 
Very interesting stuff in this mod, thanks a lot!
I'd really love one additional feature though: besides "OverwatchAimBonus"
"AllowCrit" there should be a "OverwatchCritPenalty" as well.
With the right weapon, upgrades, range, abilities and so on crit chance can be very high... it would be nice to be able to crit on tactical overwatch, but I think having the full crit chance might be too powerful.
OverwatchCritPenalty it could be a percentage of the normal crit chance, so every weapon keeps some crit chance. Or a just a flat penalty, so that only crit specialists would keep a bit of crit chance.

Question to everyone who plays with tactical overwatch - how does it work it practice? Do enemies know where you placed the cone and will they try to avoid it?
Lung 4 Mar, 2021 @ 6:43pm 
Oh also something I noticed, I should report. Interacting with advent cargo crates (you mark them, then skyranger picks them up or the advent drop ship does when they're red to be extracted by advent.) you will be spotted and unconcealed. The game will report you're concealed but aliens will still shoot at you and everyone else.
Lung 4 Mar, 2021 @ 6:58am 
Well otherwise from the missing images which are just unfixable it seems :ranger: this is a pretty good compact mod of, other mods.

Good job :firstCommit:
o_siyeza  [author] 4 Mar, 2021 @ 2:14am 
Yes, gremlin action is missing an image. Unfortunately the way the game is done, you cannot simply add an image there.
Narlindir 3 Mar, 2021 @ 3:43pm 
can confirm ther gremlin missing image have the same issue
Lung 3 Mar, 2021 @ 3:17pm 
Gremlin loot is missing an image
o_siyeza  [author] 22 Feb, 2021 @ 3:35am 
Yes, unfortunately it seems that the concealment option does not work properly. And the root of the issue seems to be somewhere modders cant really touch. So Im afraid the only solution is to not use this feature, I may actually removing it when I have time.
d_valroth 21 Feb, 2021 @ 9:56am 
@Feezec that seems to be a deeply coded vanilla mechanic. Despite introducing concealment in this game, Friaxis REALLY didn't want anyone to use it. The whole game cheats to pull you out of concealment as soon as it can, and if you somehow make it to the objective while still concealed, it just flat out strips it from you. I guess the idea is supposed to be that taking the item triggered an alarm or something. Sometimes this mod stops it, sometimes it doesn't. I'm guessing it depends on how the individual objectives trigger it. I've had half my squad lose it and half keep it sometimes.
Narlindir 21 Feb, 2021 @ 2:21am 
@feezec isnt that vanilla behavior?
I thought I read something like that on ufopedia
Feezec 20 Feb, 2021 @ 10:58pm 
Bug report: interacting with objectives breaks concealment.

I started a Blacksite mission through the Skirmish menu.
My concealed Reaper interacted with the Vial.
My Reaper lost concealment and the nearby enemies activated.
My Reaper's Shadow ability was disabled due to carrying the objective item.

The only other active mods are Mod Config Menu and XCOM Highlander.
o_siyeza  [author] 25 Jan, 2021 @ 4:55am 
Yes, normal overwatch has a -30% aim penalty. As in this overwatch you are ready and focussed in a specific area, there is no aim penalty, like in a regular shot.

This was the idea behind it. A stronguer more accurate overwatch, at the cost of needing to plan where you are overwatching.

You can always take the mode and tune it to your liking anyway ;)
d_valroth 24 Jan, 2021 @ 6:23pm 
Isn't normal overwatch at -30% though? +0 is a buff in that case.

I always thought the point was to prevent some unit you don't care about from eating the overwatch before the thing you really need to kill comes at you.
Narlindir 24 Jan, 2021 @ 5:38pm 
I read again on teh original mod page
and they specifically state a +0 to the bonus with the option to give on in the ini files
lol
so this is actually just a worse version or "tactical" if you prefer
missed opportunity imo
Narlindir 23 Jan, 2021 @ 12:01pm 
actually
this is amazing for shotguns
they are nover hitting anything beyond 10 tiles anyway
Narlindir 23 Jan, 2021 @ 11:19am 
aha!
thats pretty neat then
so its a free +20 aim or so in close range
thank you very much :D
o_siyeza  [author] 23 Jan, 2021 @ 7:12am 
So If I remember correctly, instead of a regular overwatch, is an overwatch which will only react to the enemy actions in the cone of fire. The benefit is that it does not apply the overwatch aim penalty (because you are focussing in a zone of control). That is the idea.
Narlindir 22 Jan, 2021 @ 4:40pm 
what exactly does the "Tactical Overwatch" do?
does it give a reaction against all in the zone?
cuz thats not what i experienced lol

or is it only to target a specific area for "tactical reasons"?
BlazinHothead 21 Dec, 2020 @ 3:13pm 
If you update the mod could you add the following options from the Various Options mod?

2. Smoke Grenade Grants Xcom Concealment, enemies will still get the Vanilla bonuses

10. Carry Corpses - Soldiers are able to carry non-xcom corpses, EVAC-ing with a corpse gives the corpse as a loot item

11. Evac Carry Only - Soldiers are able to also only EVAC what they're carrying and remain in the mission themselves
Note : That there's no animation for corpses EVAC'ing on their own, so they will just disappear instead of animate
o_siyeza  [author] 13 Nov, 2020 @ 12:29pm 
@kerlaeda76, I hope I will pick up the mod again in the future, but by all means if you need anything, friend me and PM me. Also you have my permission to do whatever you want with it, and upload your own version. :).
ПРОЛЕТАРИЙ 11 Nov, 2020 @ 12:32am 
This mod is in dire need of an update
Dragon32 9 Nov, 2020 @ 7:13am 
@kerlaeda76
Download the mod. Look in SRC and Content directories.
kerlaeda76 9 Nov, 2020 @ 6:44am 
Good day. If you are not working further with your wonderful mod, you can give a link to the mod's resources. thanks
o_siyeza  [author] 29 Oct, 2020 @ 6:37am 
@13Crusader13(TWW2019Top8Winner), honestly i have been out of modding for a while now. I still intend to make something more with this mod Includding improve the hacking, and srteamline some things that not work as good, but I really dont have the time now. Also feel free to ask me for the source files if you are interested in tunning the mod yourselves.