I was running into a bug where an empire would be destroyed but their neutral zones would remain. Is this a bug or is that just what happens?

So... it would be super cool if there was a galactic resolution that would make the neutral zones demilitarized (closed borders)...

yea works well on 2.5 but could you delete the zone/empire icon its al littlebit ugly

How does this mod affect the xenophobe fanatic empire when it's next to the border?

Update for 2.3 is here: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1765599531

My question here is - how does this affect war? Though I understand (and am very interested in!) the point of reducing border friction, surely a, say, Fanatic Purifier empire or Devouring Swarm who has grown more powerful than you with interests in resources or planets in that area of space would have no reason to respect the Neutral Zone?

I like the idea of this mod a lot, but I'm concerned that it may be overpowered. Perhaps violating a neutral zone should give a large opinion malus to surrounding empires? 'Untrustworthy' or something along those lines.

Finally, a solution to boarder friction that doesn't require me to subjugate every nearby empire! Diplomacy works :3

Next play through everything but my cluster is going to be neutral.

*fortification intensifies*

You sacrifice a system at a cost of Influence. Adding diplomacy around the feature is still in development.

Will there be pros and cons to this? or just pros? For example, could an Ai have a Casus Beli to claim the neutral zone for themselves? Otherwise, it's just an easier way of moving around border friction and never having to deal with it with no consequences.

Still though, great idea. I am thinking with StarTrek in mind. Cardassian and Federations famous neutral zone.

hmmm.... how shall i exploit this.... *stars using nuetral zones as fortification*

?

Can I talk to you about our lord and saviour, Scientology?

Wow this sounds really cool! I'm going to have to try it!

Duh.

wait, so it ISNT compatible with ironpants?

To dismantle Neutral Zone systems and return ownership to you:
Click on the star of a !!!! -> neighbouring system <- !!!! of the NZ, that you own.
Click Decisions.

So once a Star is neutral is it neutral for the rest of the game? What if you conquer the empire it was causing friction with, could you reclaim the star by destroying the starbase or whatever?

Awsome! let's just hope they don't copy your idea and force us to pay for it...

Please have the PDX devs integrate this into the upcoming diplomacy / espionage expansion. Time machine or not, you clearly deserve your own star system named "AlphaAsh". Inspired by Arthur i guess :D Thanks for your mod, brother.

Because my time machine is broken and I can't get PDX to add it as a feature before releasing the game. Also, I don't have a time machine, and PDX would think I was nuts. And they might steal my time machine I don't have. It's complicated.

why is this not in the game to begine with?

I did. https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1184531993& (29 Oct, 2017).
The idea isn't new.

wow really why nobody came to this earlier?

Updated. Added decision to dismantle Neutral Zone systems and return ownership to you.
Click on the star of a !!!! -> neighbouring system <- !!!! of the NZ, that you own.
Click Decisions.
Please note this decision will not work on NZs in an existing save-game, as implementation has been tweaked to allow dismantling (requiring a flag on the system that the previous version didn't add).

It's these details which make Alphamod one of the best mods ever for any game.

@Katzensuppe
just few comments below he said he is planning on doing it

Is their an option to remove the neutral zone, like making it frontier again or incorperating it again?

No. I got it from this: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1184531993& (29 Oct, 2017). The idea isn't new. I'd just re-introduced the feature in AlphaMod. Then saw the reddit post. Then released the feature standalone.

...did you get this idea from that Reddit post?

Disbanding Neutral Zones is something I aim to add.

Is it possible to take back a neutral zone in times of war?

I've not tested it in multiplayer.

@AlphaAsh
This looks awesome, only real question, how well does it work in multiplayer? if you have tested it at all. Like does it cause desync issues or does it work ok?

Great idea!

@AlphaAsh: This is brilliant! :)

If you wanna get heavy into this mod, then i suggest maybe adding some Scenario's involving neutral zones. Maybe make neutral zones capable of war, if two empires try fighting within the neutral zone. :)

@nynik @Fireplay8 Disbanding Neutral Zones is something I aim to add.
@tmonahan23 I'm not looking to work around the issue. I want the AI to use the feature with some smarts.
@GamesCooky They're your systems. If any diplomacy is involved, it'll be the empires neighbouring the NZ you make blowing a raspberry and giving you the middle digit.
As for PDS doing something similar, yeah that never happens :D

This is a good idea. However, i think it should be something that can be done as part of a peace treaty. It would be cool to see a similar feature in an update from Paradox

Can you have it where any system thats not part of a sector to be seen like a neutral zone? As a way to bypass the ai not making them?

Basically the same question as Nynik, but nicely done AlphaAsh. I figured you would be on this if you weren't already as soon as I saw that reddit thread talking about it.

Looking forward to trying this, thanks.
One question though, say you have established a neutral zone with a neighbour and subsequently you conquer or otherwise subsume their empire, presumably the neutral zone will remain? Is this correct, e.g. no way to revert or change its status once more? If so, perhaps the nearby bordering system you own to it could launch a decision costing influence or something which could reintergrate the system. Would the dummy country accept a system trade for X resource for example? Maybe a way to integrate it would be to position a fleet in the system for Y period of time, e.g. a violation of the neutral zone! :)