you can reduce it by staying on peace for a while or signing non-aggresion deals?

why there is a number on the side ("War Weariness I (199))?

this wasnt TOTALLY unseen in earlier total war titles, it was actually introduced in Napoleon : Total War, but it is a bit of a forgettable gem

what patch is this mod compatible 17 or 18

i play on patch 17 with this mod and my war wearness doesnt come off even though im at war olny with slaves

Thid MOD is not workin with the Power and Politics update.

any news on future DEI compatibility?

Is it possible to add War Weariness to the TW Warhammer? I would like a lot to have this feature in that game.

Are the AI affected by this as well? cuz something i dont like about total war games is that i can destroy stack after stack of troops but my enemy still does not want peace

Also, an important factor to wager into expansionary countries is that now since you're so huge other countries feel the weight of your power next to them and will almost always take into consideration what you tell them. Why do you think the US has their hands dipped into everywhere? Lol. this is real life, its just not put into this game and I hate it. Now, because this game is so easy and AI decision making is so flawed this is only one more buffer on an already easy game. Difficulty just changes beginning relations with you. If you could fix AI desicsion making I would generously donate to you lol. Because this is a tall order.

Its cool that you've made war weariness in the beginning of the game because that's how it is in real life. Any small country would hate to go against the US. But this also presents a great fact. With prosperity and winning battles your people no longer have fear that your country can't win and initiate wars to better the country. So, war weariness does not make sense as you keep winning battles and taking new lands. Indeed, your people should have public order and a thirst for more lands or are appeased. If you should modify this mod with these facts, then take atleast into consideration that the countries beside you now have fear of you and this should make relations with them go downward as you have an expansionary tendency. This also should make them bind together and ally against you or the other option is to become your satrapy/client state.

What data tables to look for to make those changes ? I think work into .lua script as well, isn't it ?

Could you look further and expand this ? Historically peoples which were at war with antagonistic cultures were not weary, but even happy. Could you make positive PO (maybe the amount of PO varying with the % presence of that culture in you're region) when at war with different cultures and let this war weariness only for same culture/subculture ? Maybe a submod ?

thxs

Absolutely!

I have edited this mod around in my own time and I wish to implement it into my Rebalance Mod. Permission is all I ask for. Credits go to you.

No.

any plan for a DEI version?

Please support it further.

does the Ai get negative effects as well?

@visigoth I am thinking about getting this mod, I just wonder if you fixed the issue Phalangitis mentioned?

This mod looks incredibly promising! Unfortunately, I've grown so accustomed to playing DeI, playing vanilla or Radious seems almost foreign to me, any idea on when, if it is possible, you'll create a DeI compatible version?

@phalangitis

Thank you!

@Albion i noticed one small thing.. I believe that your script is missing something. Your script is linked to event "faction leader declears war" or "faction leader signs peace treaty". I think that in the case that you completely destroy a faction the war score does not go down since no peace treaty is signed.(In GaW at least i had this problem)..So in my script (which is somehow similar in this part only) i used the context:character():faction():ended_war_this_turn == true code. That way when you will destroy a faction you will see your war count drop since the war ends that turn... So basically you need to add one more function controlling this situation and link it to event CharacterTurnStart (or end).. and of course to the variable change.. Cheers mate.

Cheers mate :)

@Paddy Thank you for looking into the mod. If you read the link where Jack Lusted talks about War Weariness, he says that they changes the AI personalities, but does not say that the AI actually suffers from War Weariness.

From what I've seen in the script, the AI does not suffer from it, and I modeled my version after the official one, so there's that.

I did release a mod with some of the "AI Personality" changes mentioned. You may want to check that out.

Happy new year!

Just to let you know war weariness DOES affect the AI in Age of Charlemagne as confirmed by CA.

https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/165713/does-war-weariness-affect-ai

Hopefully this can be added as this is solely why AOC is my favourite at the minute. The AI reacts much more realistic to wars where it takes brutal losses due to war weariness. I've noticed more uprisings in areas where the AI is losing consistently

hello, to start a War Weariness campaign appears not me. Play cutro shifts, I have to play more ??

pazazz: "You can reduce your war weariness by winning battles" - it's right there in the description. "War spoils" decreases war weariness.

nevermind one of my mods was interfering. i switched to the lite version. good job btw

does this work for all factions. i'm playing as a minor faction (garamantia) and don't see the war weariness in my faction screen

Dispenser Scoot: Roman Economy depended on the spoils of war

@Albion, cheers

@horrido FIXED!

persecuting and prosecuting are two different things.

Pazazz: How *wouldn't* it be? Wars are expensive and damage the population, no matter where or when you go.

I'm concerned if this is historically accurate or not.

I not agreed: in reality each battle loosed affect weariness even on the same turn. It's not the same thing to loose 1 or 3 for the peoples morale.

It is LUA and I'm afraid I'm just starting out and in every sense of the word a beginner. It does seem pretty powerful however.

I'd like yo ask you how far are the boundaries in which you can mod the campaign in terms of behaviour? Is it possible to make completely new behaviour with scripting? If so, what coding language is it?

I will give a go next campaign seems another mod that should have been in game at start

December 28th Update:

Nerfed the rate at which War Weariness is accelerated across the board and slightly increased the amount it can be decreased by through victories and signing peace treaties.

@neoiq5719 Thank you for the balance suggestion, this is a work in progress and will be fine tuned as it evolves.

@Leuname the player is the only one who is affected by War Weariness in Age of Charlemagne, so I kept that system in place in order to maintain consistency.

the war weariness should be maintained constant per turn no matter how many battles you fight. the way it is right now lets say you lose three battles in the same turn then your war weariness jumps from 0 to -3 or -4 which IMHO is just way too much.

And one more question: If AI won't be affected by War Weariness, why to apply only to the player ?

The Lite version is supposed to be DeI compatible but this ?

Yes, it does not apply to the AI.

Okay, I think generals who lose battles lose gravitas without mods anyway. So, regarding a recent comment by me that was left unanswered, only the player can get War Weariness, not the AI, right?

@Alejo yes, but it would require a lot more scripting. I may implement it in the future, but for now I think I am going to rollback to the release version and leave it be for a while.