@Pimpin Pippin

thx for this awesome mod!

@Fatalis and @Arcadian, you two should give up on Radious. It is a bad mod that removes the fun, strategy and uniqueness of the factions besides the fact that is very incompatible. If you guys want a good overhaul, use Steel Faith Overhaul. MUUUCH better.

ive ran this with radious as well and had the same problem. which makes me quite sad as theres no way id give up radious.

radious is the only other thing i can think of that might affect it.

@Acadian Are you sure? I just tested it and there doesnt seem to be any issues. Are you running any other mods that tweaks the diplomacy?

when i play as norsca and i subjugate the tribes, they still break vassal when war is declared and either i decline or they decline to join.

@RafaL I think in this case a mod manager would be extremely useful to find out the issue. Hopefully CA releases the manager they've teased about in the past. Sorry I couldn't be of more help on this one

No really. I have mods that deal with the ai cheats and the random cheats due difficult.

@RafaL Do you any other mod that deals with campaign diplomacy?

Really? Fucking hell... Idk what mod can be the conflicting then...

@RafaL I checked the variable tables for those two mods and they dont change any of the variables from my mod as well, so they are compatible. Also tried all 3 together and there werent any crashes

Okay, i think i found the true problem.
It doesnt seem to be compaitble with Diplomatic Options - Vassal All Factions and Diplomatic Options - Liberate All Factions . Is it possible to make compatible.

I understand, but for some reason, your mod crashes my game if i have it running alongside ultimate chaos. If i disable ultimate chaos it stop crashing, if i enable, it crashes.

@RafaL Ive checked the variables for both mods and Ultimate Chaos doesnt have a variant table that edits the campaign diplomacy. So technically they shouldnt even clash with each other at all

Yes, that mod. I tested all the mods i am using one by one and your mod was causing a crash

@RafaL Its this mod, right? https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=894230944

Ive tried both of them together and they work fine. Are you sure its my mod thats causing the crash?

This mod doesnt work with Ultimate Chaos, it crashes the game at launch.

Got a notification for this for some reason XD

MINOS's mod means you don't become unreliable if you break an alliance too soon or anything like that. this mod allows you to decline joining wars without breaking alliances/vassals

@Pimpin Pippin I dont use it myself but from Ive read it only changes values related to reliability ratings. My mod deals with alliances and such

@ Filay
Thank you for making this mod!

Could you please point out what are the major differences between this mod and the "No Treacheries in Diplomacy" by MINOS?
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=721810638

Thank you :)

@Darkness I'm not quite sure tbh. Unfortunately I dont really have any experience playing coop campaigns or modding coop stuff in general

Great mod, but is it possible to make this so we can decline joining wars with coop partners? right now our solution is using this mod and going in a "head to head" campaign, but this isn't ideal as we can't see everything the others can and can't draw
Would be great to be able to call other allies to war but not coop partner

I dont think so, but im not sure, maybe one of the radious mods is effecting it.

@Fatalis They're not supposed to break off in that situation I believe. But just to be sure, are you running any other mods that deal with vassals?

question, when the ai declares war on my vassal in the middle of the ai turn, if i decline to join the war the vassal breaks away from the alliance by the time its my turn. Am i reading the decription wrong and thats whats supposed to happen or do i have an incompatable mod somewhere?

Sounds like a great mod!

@Toumaï They don't use the same tables, so theres no compatiblity issues

Thanks for this mod !
I guess you modify the sametables of this mod : https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=763716357 , so does it change a lot to make them compatible ??

Hmmm I see, I'll give it a shot. Lol

@AlextheGreat I checked the variable tables for SFO and technically It should be compatible

Would it be compatible with SFO?

@Vaeringjar Here you go https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=884735958

a variant of this mod only with the Vassal part would be great

This would've been really handy when i got screwed by the Sarl tribes that were my vassals for the majority of the campaign as Chaos.

It's really silly that they give you this ultimatium everytime you go at war with someone, where their either refuse and go at war with you instead, or just break every connection you built with them because of that.

*Hello fellow dwarven people that we are allies for generations and we both equally hate the vampires ever since our race met with theirs. What? You're going at war with them ?! Well fuck you and your people, never talk to me again!*

I very much appreciate for the mod! Surprised a mod like this didn't come out sooner.

Yeah it should be

Save game compatible?