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Zee's Third Party Grievances Reduced
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Mod: AI, Gameplay
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22 Feb, 2019 @ 5:58pm
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Zee's Third Party Grievances Reduced

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Description
This mod increases the upper threshold of grievances you must generate before the rest of the world considers you a warmonger, and reduces the maximum relationship penalty for being one.


Overview
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The default vanilla relationship penalty is 10% of the grievances you've incurred against any civ, across the board.
The default vanilla maximum penalty for this is -40.

This means if you declared a Surprise War on someone (150 grievances), you would immediately receive a -15 relationship penalty with all other civs you know, and there would be room for another -25 penalty for any other grievances you might generate.


This mod reduces those numbers from (10%) to (4%) and from (-40) to (-15).

In the same Surprise War example above, this results in a -6 penalty with all civs, and room for another -9 penalty.

This makes, for example China, care a lot more about what you and China have done with each other, not what you and Germany have done. That's between you and Germany.


Compatibility
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Can be added and removed freely from any running save without issue.
If added to a running save, any pre-existing -40 penalties you have are not instantly reduced to -15. They must tick down by passing turns.
Requires Gathering Storm.
Shouldn't be any compatibility conflicts, let me know if you have problems.


You might also enjoy my other mods:
Zee's Properly Timed Eras
Zee's Strategic Resource Overhaul
Zee's Distance Is A Good Thing
Zee's Fewer Trade Offers
Zee's Normalized Climate Change
Zee's Decommission Power Plant
Zee's Slower Grievance Decay
Zee's More Reliable Reactors


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26 Mar, 2022 @ 2:19pm
Just wondering :)
Rick
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Moll Dubh 12 May, 2024 @ 8:49pm 
Very good. Was playing with Chandragupta and was friendly towards everyone. Level 2 alliances with 5 other players and friendship declared with other 5 since the ancient times. Then Darius backstabs be, I take one of his cities, Kupe joins the emergency against me to free his city. Everyone hates Darius and Kupe. Then Darius' last city rebel against him and join me, and I proceed to take over Kupe only city. And then everyone denounces me for inflicting grievances against them for killing Kupe (like, what? You all hated him and where at war with him too!) and for inflicting those non-sensical grievances for every single other player. While I think grievances are an interesting mechanic against warmongers, they dont make any sense when you are fighting togheter against the warmonger.
_Zee  [author] 6 Mar, 2023 @ 5:55pm 
Ya that's the kind of nonsense this mod was made to fix.
Glad it's working out for you. :steamthumbsup:
Slash 6 Mar, 2023 @ 6:27am 
Without this mod its possible to be denounced by Vietnam for taking conquered Vietnamese settings from the Mayans and giving them back to Vietnam. The negative opinion penalty from hurting their enemy is greater than the positive from giving them their cities back. 😑 I'm glad I only payed 6 bucks for this game.
Lord Felix 7 Sep, 2021 @ 4:56pm 
You sir a bloody legend for this. the other mod does not support save games. Thank you what a life saver! what a legend!
_Zee  [author] 17 Jun, 2021 @ 7:54am 
You are welcome, enjoy. :)
eternien 17 Jun, 2021 @ 2:44am 
Oh nice, i've been tired to be always hated by everybody when i just conquer one city-state or raze it. even Civs that i meet later in the game. -_-
Sometimes i just want to do a tall empire and focus on diplomacy and commerce but there always comes a point in the game where I have to go to war and after that I am considered as the worst scum of the world and suddenly no one wants to do business with me anymore.
It's so frustrating sometimes so it inevitably ends with my empire destroying others with my armies.
GaussTheWizard 22 May, 2020 @ 1:41am 
No longer shall even warmongers denounce me when I first meet them for fighting a war that isn't even on their landmass.
♥♥♥ war arena 1 May, 2020 @ 3:06pm 
hi, can you also remove the diplomatic penalty for grievances? or could you make an "advanced" version of this mod that offers no penaltys at all for grievances? i just get declared war on by the AI, and claiming some of their territory, razing their cities to make them submit -- it makes me the bad guy, it's so silly. it wasn't like this in the other games, not very much.
HeyNongMer 8 Feb, 2020 @ 10:36am 
After a few more turns, I think I might have spoken too soon. The -40 number is going down for all but one of the civs now. I'm assuming that's how it would look with a mid-game implementation? Not an instant drop to -15, but a turn-by-turn reduction? That's what seems to be happening at any rate.

And thanks for this great mod! I was in a situation where 3 civs declared a military emergency against me, so they didn't get any grievances for declaring war on me, and then when I take a couple their cities, I'm the bad guy?! (I mean, I *am* a bad guy, but that's no reason for the kind of reaction every other civ had, lol)
_Zee  [author] 8 Feb, 2020 @ 10:25am 
Have you tried disabling all other mods and running this one on its own?
Do this with a brand new game.
Then work backwards and see what is conflicting. If you figure out which of your mods is causing the problem, I will add it to the description's compatibility info.